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    So...The Journey Begins.......

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    Hi Everyone

    Tomorrow, the tank will be delivered to my home! In preparation, I went to 328 to pick up the basic essentials for a planted tank which is the base fert, minerals and gravel.

    For those who know me, well, the brand choice is obvious...







    I will update this thread as the progress develops......
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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    Finally the tank came and got the Dennerle substrate heating cables in....poured in the base fert and gravel and got the hardscape in.....










    Now to install the rest of the stuff.......
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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    Heating cables

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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    a good start , curious about the heat cables as well

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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    The hardcore people believe the heating cable is good for the plant rooting and bacteria. Usually those who used stayed in cooler countries.

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!! TIME TO LAY BACK AND RELAX!
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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    Perhaps this link helps on the reason on substate heating?

    http://aquaticconcepts.thekrib.com/A..._Substrate.htm
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    On the side, my tank concept is going to be an Amazonia Biotope. The target temperature is between 26C to 28C mostly 80% Echinos, 10% Cryptos and 10% Narrow leafed ferns. To encourage out-of-tank growth for the Echinos, I have suspended 2x150watt MH lamps 30cm from the water line. This means the water temp is going to be really warm.



    To counter the warmth, I have placed in a TR20 Teco Chiller to sustain water the target water temp.



    Based on previous experience, with substrate heating of 3C higher than the water temp, the plants have very good sustainable growth without the need to add suppliments to the base fert.

    There is also no signs of the substrate going anaerobic after pulling up plants with some of the root system left behind due to snapping. There is also less fish muck as the difference in temperature 'pulls' in the muck into the base fert level. This can be seen as a darken layer on the base fert level.

    While there is no exact science to prove the viability of substrate heating but through pass experiences, my personal opinion is that it works.....at least for me
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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    seldom see heater cable setup nowadays , will there be any foreground plants ?

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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    yup...my all time favorite....E. Tennelus..
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    New update.....well the tank is up and running on Saturday night!!! Dragged Simon and CelticFish butts to Teo in the morning to buy veggies!!!

    Made the first newbie mistake!!!....should have used acrylic plate and modeling pose scews to secure the large driftwood to anchor it to the base of the tank....thinking that I may move it later on, I chose to use stones to anchor it down at the sides...not taking precautions to weight it down in the center, started planting with 1/3 water filled.....after about 1/2 hour, the planting was done and time to fill up the tank.....at 50% filled.....

    GUESS WHAT...the driftwood dislodged itself form the supporting rocks and shot up like a ROCKET.....I could have kicked myself for this newbie mistake....LOL!!!! No choice but to remove all the plants and drain out the water to reposition the driftwood.

    At the current moment, 'haze' is in the tank with bacteria bloom....LOL!!! Will post pictures soon on the progress....

    Foreground E: Tennelus
    Mid ground: E. Parviflorus, Crypto Wentii, Crypto Lucian.
    Mid ground rear: E. Vesuvius, E. Ozelot GreenCrypto Wentii, Crypto Lucian.
    Rear ground: E. Hormanii Red (Narrow Leaf), E. Marble Queen, E. Vesuvius.
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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    there are two type of wood inside ? the behind one look darker

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    To be frank....I don't know what kind of wood they are....LOL!!!!

    Just that it looks good and the color contrast is nice.....and just to confess, Simon chose it for me....because my choice of wood shape SUCKS!!!!! LOL!!!!
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    oh, you did not soak the bog wood first?? soaking it first will make it sink easier ( you may already know this, but forgotten)

    I think both wood is same... only the surface is a bit dirty ...

    more pictures when you are ready... hehe good scapes can't rush...


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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    i also dont usually presoak wood , just wait for it to become water logged , more water changes to remove the tannin
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    Thanks limz_777

    I was kind of banging that the rocks used to wedge it at the side was going to hold it down....it did until about 50% filled that the wood decided that it was stronger than the rocks ........LOL

    Keeping my fingers crossed that the plants establish fast as I am back in KL now and the tank is left to its own device.....perhaps its a blessing in disguise as I am always impatient ......LOL
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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    The oldies are back

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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    interesting.... im camping here ...

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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    Very interesting to see the classic methods of planted tank setup here... ie. heating cables, deponit mix + gravel etc.

    I'm definitely following this thread for sure!
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    The arrangement of the hardscape looks nice. Will be camping here.
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    Re: So...The Journey Begins.......

    @wongce....my sincere apology...in my hurry I confused your post with limz_777 as one...on closer reading I realized it....sorry

    @zerofighterx101 and @Urban Aquaria.....go easy on an old timer that is too old to learn the new stuff .....LOL!!!

    @aquarius....the hardscape you see in my early pictures is history...LOL....due to a stupid mistake....that look does not apply anymore....now its recovering from that mistake and hopefully no new ones....LOL
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