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    Hi guys, I am new to this forum having just started my low tech shrimp tank recently.

    I happen to buy this plant and am wondering if it is aquatic or non-aquatic. Could not ID it myself based on searching google and trawling the web. Could anyone help me ID this plant and whether it is aquatic? Roots are coming out of the leaves, and it doesnt look like it is doing well at this time. Any advise? Thanks so much.


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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    haha, its the infamous java fern, hardy and aquatic

    roots growing out of tip of leaves are normal( baby java ferns/ aka daughter plants) . The leaf will wither gradually as the baby plants grows... you can plug off the baby plants and retie it on the driftwood...

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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    Thanks so much wongce. you helped to allay my concerns as many shops selling non-aquatic plants and will cause unnecessary trouble in the tank, as I understand it. Now that you said so, it does look like a java fern. Lucky me I guess, it was one of the plants that I wanted to buy.

    Many of the leaves have roots growing out of it. Now I am thinking whether to pluck it out and position it elsewhere to help them grow.

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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    its easy to grow plants, plucking the plantlets will help to prolong the life of the original leaf..

    you can tie it back to the original dw...


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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    Thanks. I did that. I plucked them out and tried to just use the gravel to hold the new leaves down. gotta see what happens in the next few weeks. left some just floating around too.

    Also have java moss in this tank which doesn't seem to be growing yet

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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    Note: java fern cannot be planted into soil/gravel...they will not survive.

    Plants need time to grow... as long the parameters are ok, they will grow...


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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    May i know your light on hours? it might be the case.
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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    Can I leave the java fern floating around till they become slightly bigger before I find a spot for them?

    lights on for about 15 hours each day. is this alright?

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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    15 hours may be too long, will cause algae problems.
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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    Hi Uranium,
    For Java ferns, you will want to trim off the plantlets off the tips of the fern. find some place to tie them down.
    Do not plant them, the plant requires their root system to be exposed (not buried) to survive.

    15 hours of the right intensity of lights is too long.

    If you have the right intensity and type of light, you should start off with 8 hours.

    Hope it helps.
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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    Thanks erctheanda. I trim it off but left them floating because they are still quite small. hope that is fine. I let the lights be on for this long because I want to accelerate the growth a little and also perhaps help the plants settle into their new tank. would that help?

    also its a shrimp tank with quite a few shrimps so im not sure if algae would be a problem. In fact was hoping it helped to promote algae growth for the shrimps. what do you think?

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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    Quote Originally Posted by uranium View Post
    Thanks erctheanda. I trim it off but left them floating because they are still quite small. hope that is fine. I let the lights be on for this long because I want to accelerate the growth a little and also perhaps help the plants settle into their new tank. would that help?

    also its a shrimp tank with quite a few shrimps so im not sure if algae would be a problem. In fact was hoping it helped to promote algae growth for the shrimps. what do you think?

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    Hi Uranium,
    Leaving the lights on for a longer period does not accelerate growth. Unfortunately it does not work that way. you can google articles on rate of photosynthesis and growth and their relationships with photo period and intensity. the long short of it is, it differs from plant to plant, but the rule of thumb is 6-10 hours of appropriate light and nutrients.

    To "accelerate" growth, you need to furnish the plants an environment that they are most suited in. the adaptability of plants is limited compared to humans and animals. Java ferns are moderate growers in my experience. they grow faster than moss, but slower than glosso, just to give you a gauge. Like most plants, they want mild, flowing water with good supply of CO2 , major nutrients NPK when the photoperiod starts. they also want enough light to start their day.

    Can read Wongce's blog or the sticky link in the "beginner's corner" to start.

    Shrimps are good algae eaters. the issue is, they don't eat all types of algae. My good friends, Green Spot Algae and Black Beard algae are simply too tough for most shrimps. So before you decide to become algae farmer like me, think again whether the algae is suitable for their consumption.

    If the wall of text above is too much. Take this piece of advice as a starter..

    Aquariums are all about balance. no 2 tanks are the same. all the tips and methods out in the internet and books are here to help you tip the balance in one way or another. Be sure to understand in what impact they have before applying them.
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    Re: help identify this plant please?

    Question directed at eric, but i will just give my 2cents worth. Lights on for too long, with low amount of plants will invite more algae than the shrimps can handle. Without proper CO2 injection, even long hours of lights will not help its growth. Plant growth depends on lights, co2 and nutrients, which is interconnected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erctheanda View Post
    Hi Uranium,
    Leaving the lights on for a longer period does not accelerate growth. Unfortunately it does not work that way. you can google articles on rate of photosynthesis and growth and their relationships with photo period and intensity. the long short of it is, it differs from plant to plant, but the rule of thumb is 6-10 hours of appropriate light and nutrients.

    To "accelerate" growth, you need to furnish the plants an environment that they are most suited in. the adaptability of plants is limited compared to humans and animals. Java ferns are moderate growers in my experience. they grow faster than moss, but slower than glosso, just to give you a gauge. Like most plants, they want mild, flowing water with good supply of CO2 , major nutrients NPK when the photoperiod starts. they also want enough light to start their day.

    Can read Wongce's blog or the sticky link in the "beginner's corner" to start.

    Shrimps are good algae eaters. the issue is, they don't eat all types of algae. My good friends, Green Spot Algae and Black Beard algae are simply too tough for most shrimps. So before you decide to become algae farmer like me, think again whether the algae is suitable for their consumption.

    If the wall of text above is too much. Take this piece of advice as a starter..

    Aquariums are all about balance. no 2 tanks are the same. all the tips and methods out in the internet and books are here to help you tip the balance in one way or another. Be sure to understand in what impact they have before applying them.
    Quote Originally Posted by bennyc View Post
    Question directed at eric, but i will just give my 2cents worth. Lights on for too long, with low amount of plants will invite more algae than the shrimps can handle. Without proper CO2 injection, even long hours of lights will not help its growth. Plant growth depends on lights, co2 and nutrients, which is interconnected.

    Both of them are right, too much light is waste of energy and time, 6-8 hours of 1-2wpg is sufficient for low tech plants.

    as per mentioned by eric, check out my blog...wahahaha... don't worry, my blog do not bite...


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