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    Re: E Tenellus or APP plant

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    By the way, I just happened to see this marsilea hirsuta http://www.myaquariumclub.com/marsil...lant-2271.html and has anyone has experience in this plant. Is this easier than APP & hairgrass which the article indicates that it is
    a low light foreground plant.

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    Yeah, i was actually going to suggest just replacing new tubes for your lightset too... since with old tubes the actual light intensity might have probably dropped 50% or even lower after a year. Just changing to new tubes may already be sufficient to solve your lighting issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Aquaria View Post
    Yeah, i was actually going to suggest just replacing new tubes for your lightset too... since with old tubes the actual light intensity might have probably dropped 50% or even lower after a year. Just changing to new tubes may already be sufficient to solve your lighting issues.
    I just went to NA yesterday and bought 2 tubes of Osram T5 and hopefully it will show some results soon.

    I planted my APP on 17/1 and usually how many days will they turn to submerged and start to spread as I see some of
    them melting and some floated.

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    Re: E Tenellus or APP plant

    Hey BlessChwee,

    How much did it cost you for the Osram T5? Is it 3ft 39W High output?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepy_lancs View Post
    Hey BlessChwee,

    How much did it cost you for the Osram T5? Is it 3ft 39W High output?
    I am not sure if it is high output and it is OSram 865 but I think should be.

    I got it at 15 per tube

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlessChwee View Post
    I just went to NA yesterday and bought 2 tubes of Osram T5 and hopefully it will show some results soon.

    I planted my APP on 17/1 and usually how many days will they turn to submerged and start to spread as I see some of
    them melting and some floated.
    if you got inject co2 within 7 days see growth. depending on how many tubes you using, more tubes higher co2

    t5 after 8 months to a year need replace. creeping plants do not do well at all for tubes more then a year old...

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    Sigh I think I have to officially declare that I have failed in growing APP again as I planted 5 pots and most melted if not floated and those left in substrate didnt spread any runners at all. Worst still, my tank got attack by green water again just like previously after I start to put in some dry ferts and only 2 times my tank turn slight cloudy and green.

    Even the japonica is melting and did not see any sign of vibrant growth but I think the staurayone repens do grow abit.

    On top of this, there are bga by the sides of the tank despite having a powerhead at the top to create water circulation.

    All in all I am getting quite disappointed and hope someone can rekindle my faith and interest to proceed on zzzzzz

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    Re: E Tenellus or APP plant

    I believe you already change your light tube, you are using 2 T5 tube,what is the wattage and the kelvin colour temperature?

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    Re: E Tenellus or APP plant

    have the app that float grow new roots?

    just to confirm, 2 feet tall tank???

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    Quote Originally Posted by zerofighterx101 View Post
    I believe you already change your light tube, you are using 2 T5 tube,what is the wattage and the kelvin colour temperature?
    The tubes are Osram T539HO and 6500k. I am thinking would it be due to my tank height of 2ft as I only got 2 new T5 and maybe for 2ft width will need 6 x 39w.

    Anyway, I am planning to plant Marsilea Hirsuta and hope it is easier than APP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    have the app that float grow new roots?

    just to confirm, 2 feet tall tank???

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    Those that are floated do have some roots but the leaves are melted and yes, mine is a 322 tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlessChwee View Post
    Those that are floated do have some roots but the leaves are melted and yes, mine is a 322 tank.
    got roots growing mean got growth.
    some plants when you plant it in another environment then it was grown in... melt until the stalk.

    Japonica so far, only see it slowly melt when not enough light.



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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    got roots growing mean got growth.
    some plants when you plant it in another environment then it was grown in... melt until the stalk.

    Japonica so far, only see it slowly melt when not enough light.



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    But I have planted them since 17/01 and now none of them are growing so should I just leave them there and adopt wait and see again. As for japonica, yes I also think probably my lights are not enough as I only got 2 new T5 and the other 2 tubes are older. I did not change all as I am still contemplating if to plunge in and spent a big hole to get the led lights later

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlessChwee View Post
    But I have planted them since 17/01 and now none of them are growing so should I just leave them there and adopt wait and see again. As for japonica, yes I also think probably my lights are not enough as I only got 2 new T5 and the other 2 tubes are older. I did not change all as I am still contemplating if to plunge in and spent a big hole to get the led lights later
    Got a good chance stunted.. due to light reasons.
    Lets get another opinion, since i know how it feels changing 4 t5 tubes at one go feels...
    Unless your pocket in deep enough to bear such costs, just stick to T5 for sometime.

    if you see my 2013 scape, i also found myself in denial that lights strong enough or not.. sometimes even if you have the gut feeling. You also don't want to admit hehe...
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    Re: E Tenellus or APP plant

    Where you live?

    You want Glosso i can give you.. took out a bunch as i replanted the whole foreground.
    Got some limited space to farm APP so can't really offer you much.

    Of course i am not quality plant provider, got some algae so you have to de-algae them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    Where you live?

    You want Glosso i can give you.. took out a bunch as i replanted the whole foreground.
    Got some limited space to farm APP so can't really offer you much.

    Of course i am not quality plant provider, got some algae so you have to de-algae them...
    Bro I stay at Admiralty and I did tried glosso when I just got my tank 2 years ago and needless to say, failed and I tried hg and tenellus next which more or less able to grow because that time I got 6 tubes of T5 and 4 are new tubes. At that time I also see alot of pearling from my java plant and japonica but now only one or two tiny drop of bubbles from the tiger lotus.

    Seriously I regretted not heeding an uncle advice from a lfs not to get 2ft height tank

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlessChwee View Post
    Bro I stay at Admiralty and I did tried glosso when I just got my tank 2 years ago and needless to say, failed and I tried hg and tenellus next which more or less able to grow because that time I got 6 tubes of T5 and 4 are new tubes. At that time I also see alot of pearling from my java plant and japonica but now only one or two tiny drop of bubbles from the tiger lotus.

    Seriously I regretted not heeding an uncle advice from a lfs not to get 2ft height tank
    I only know MH and T5 (with lens) that are suited to deep tanks.

    Ever consider to lower the water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    I only know MH and T5 (with lens) that are suited to deep tanks.

    Ever consider to lower the water?
    Yes I already lower my water 6-7" from the top.

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    Re: E Tenellus or APP plant

    My Friend,
    Your 2ft height is not too high. I have done mine at the same high. Its working fine. This hobby too much light is not a good idea... Anyway, your PM Message is full I can't respond to your PM... Please clear your messages
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlessChwee View Post
    Yes I already lower my water 6-7" from the top.
    then only can think of is that 2 old tube. you used to use 6 tubes in your 1st tank? 2 old + 2 new vs 6 new.. big difference..

    IMHO, 2 old tubes good as not there sometimes.

    sleepy is right about too much light sometimes not a good thing.


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