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    any one ever kanna white spots?
    what is the treatment and how long did it take to recover?

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    any one ever kanna white spots?
    what is the treatment and how long did it take to recover?
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    Tracks, are u talking abt fishes or human skin?

    if u are talking abt fishes, u can read the posts here.. offer u a comprehensive info..
    1. garlic juices for white spots
    2. help!!!!! white spots

    however, if u are talking abt skin diseases, can recommend u guardian white spot lotion.. work wonders...
    Let us work together to preserve the world for our children to inherit by being responsible to our surroundings. Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints, bubbles and memories.

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    i am referring to white spots for the fishes
    i wouldnt post my medical problems on a planted tank forum

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    i am referring to white spots for the fishes
    i wouldnt post my medical problems on a planted tank forum
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    errr.. sorry abt my bad joke.. it was tactless..i didn't mean it to sound like that... sorry..

    have u gotten the info on how to rectify the white spot problem (i presumed) in your tank?
    Let us work together to preserve the world for our children to inherit by being responsible to our surroundings. Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints, bubbles and memories.

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    use 1 tablespoon of salt for every 5gallons of water.
    do regular water changes and add salt.
    keep salt regime for 3-4 weeks.
    thomas liew

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    may i ask ah...why cannot use medication?
    Cheers!

    Benetay

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    cos it can have plenty of side-effects
    have you ever seen 40+ shrimp all go belly up?
    if you rtm, the interpet ich med states not to use with crustaceans in the tank

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    but i've use waterlife...no pro
    Cheers!

    Benetay

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    bene's waterlife has cured my white spot problem.

    thanks ben! []

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    anwyay i suspect Waterlife whitespot medication gave me BBA problems maybe not
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    Benetay

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    I had not used white spot medication to treat white spot for years..

    white spots that we see on the fish are adult forms of a protozoan parasite. The life cycle is such that the adult forms will manifest beneath the slime/partial scale level of the fish , and after a few days, encapsulated in cysts, and after a few days again, burst out in the form of hundreds of youngs. The aim of the medication is to kill the free swimming babies...(the adult and cyst are resistent to the medication) .

    But it is impt to know that they are ALWAYS in the tank water. DOesnt mean that there is no fish has it means that the tank is clean.

    THe reason why they show at times is due to the fish itself.
    WHen a fish is stressed, it becomes vulnerable to such parasites, and they can manisfest themselves easily.
    SOurces of stress can be sudden temp changes, very large water changes, bad water, stress from harrassement etc.

    the best way is the reduce/remedy if the cause is assignable, and use salt bath. Most importantly, reduce the stress of the fish, help the fish get rid of the parasite itself.

    By adding medication (like malachite green and formalin, are actually toxic to fish also) , or catching the fish to hospital tank, it is stressing the fish further unnecassarily.


    If they are spotted early enough, good temp and water control coupled with salt is more than enough to do the job.

    ANd prevention is the key, our fish get stressed for reasons often due to us. DO try to find out assingable causes, for ich is actually indication of wellbeing of the fish.

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    well said LSZ [] Temp do plays a role in here...
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    actually 2 ways to see the temperature thing

    -prevent large swings of temps to prevent outbreaks/further outbreaks..

    -have slightly warmer temp so that adults drop off and cyst hatch faster so that the babies can be killed salt bath!

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    ya, i agree with the temp swing and the slightly high temp =)
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    actually 2 ways to see the temperature thing

    -prevent large swings of temps to prevent outbreaks/further outbreaks..

    -have slightly warmer temp so that adults drop off and cyst hatch faster so that the babies can be killed salt bath!
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    i have a few things to say about this
    temperature as a method of killing ich is way overrated
    to kill ich, the temperature of the water will be enough to kill off most fish

    large temperature swings cause outbreaks as it stresses the fishes' immune system
    any other stress could exacerbate this
    if the parasite is in the water and left untreated, an outbreak could still happen eventually

    higher temperatures don't cause the parasite to drop off on contact
    rather, it accelerates the lifecycle so the time interval for the incubation of the tomites becomes shorter
    however, if you're relying on temperature alone to kill ich, the higher temperature will mean you're killing off your fish with the ich faster
    thus, salt is frequently used in conjuction with higher temperatures in order to cure the infestation more quickly

    and one more thing
    the 'higher temperatures' quoted in aquarium literature are normally based on the colder parts of the world
    it doesn't really apply to singapore
    i find we don't need heaters to achieve the same effect

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    yimin.

    just to clarify a bit :

    i dont mean using temperature to kill the parasite.
    i meant to accelarate the entire cycle.
    thus i said "salt bath".


    ANd in my earlier post, i did mention that temperature swing is just one of the causes of stress.
    THe most impt thing for us to do is not to kill parasites when we see them. But to get to the root of it, like said, "to help the fish help itself".

    It is still possible to have temperature swings even in singapore. It is all indirectly related to certain fishkeeping practices. eg. If someone always change 70% of tank water, sometimes at night sometimes in morning, temp will fluctuate a lot. We cannot assume everyone to have right practices.

    and also, i said "have slightly warmer temperature". There is certain time of the year, where temperature in esp small tanks can drop pretty much at night. Having just a difference of 2 or 3 degrees can do great difference. Not to mention ppl having tanks in air-con room, which is common. It does make a difference.
    ANd this is from me who hadnt used a heater all my life.

    and Yes they are there all the time, whether we like it or not.

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    shao zhang, i'm not referring to your previous post
    i'm saying that there's a misconception in general that high temperatures kill ich off
    this is more of a problem in overseas sites

    and i'm not disagreeing with temp swings causing stress
    my point was that in places like the US, the temp swings are very drastic
    that's why they have heaters to maintain it at even 25 degrees, especially during the cold seasons

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    then dont quote me!

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    i'm quoting you because it relates to what i was saying
    for one thing, i was clarifying the effect of higher temperatures on ich
    literature is more concerned with colder temperatures of 20 degrees when they advise increasing the temperature to 85F, or 29 degrees celcius
    ime i have treated ich without raising the temperature at all, in an aircon room (night time), with a fluctuation of 24-28 degrees

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    it seems that the salt bath is helping to rid the fishes of the white spots...
    however is also seems that the fishes are LOSING THEIR TAIL FINS!!!
    Also i can see that somwhere just after the gills....are a distinct "white-tened" patch

    has this ever occurred to anyone?? the bigger sized cardinals that i have had lost their tail fin..thus they are dying away now....
    anyone have any idea to this??

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