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    Endler´s livebearers

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    Anyone knows where can I find Endler´s guppy?
    Last edited by Fei Miao; 1st Aug 2005 at 13:01. Reason: A more accurate name

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    hi,

    Do take a look at the Guppy club Singapore's website.
    www.sgguppy.com

    You can find some people trading endlers there.

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    Thanks chris!

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    Take a look at Eco Culture. Thay have pairs available.
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    Where is this Eco Culture? Can you guys recommend some interesting shops? You can send email if you think it might not be appropriate to say here. Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by free2roam
    Hi. There is this shop close to Aljunied MRT called KingFisher Aquarium Shop that has two varieties (one Asian), but there are only males, no females. Cost $1.50 each. Cheers

    what does it mean, "asian" variety?
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Justikanz, here's the address:

    Eco Culture / Cichlids Forever
    1024, Upper Serangoon Road SG-534762.

    Its near Kovan MRT. Do a check on streetdirectory.com.sg for an exact location map or check your street directory (book).
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    what does it mean, "asian" variety?
    I think I read somewhere before that there are Brazilian guppies and Asian ones. What I understood is that these two withstand different pH ranges, hence people do not wish to confuse them. Not very sure myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewtyr
    I think I read somewhere before that there are Brazilian guppies and Asian ones. What I understood is that these two withstand different pH ranges, hence people do not wish to confuse them. Not very sure myself.

    I dislike the fact that it creates the impression in novice hobbyists' mind that some guppies and endlers actually come from Asia. Just like some people who insists that LH is a natural species because they can be found in the reservoirs.

    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Well, it can be also of the fact that a lot of guppy varieties are developed in Asian countries like Singapore and Sri Lanka... Btw, it might be that Endlers' might be a valid species and not a sub-species or variety of the guppy...

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    no doubt but my point being that the poecilids are south/central american in origin, and calling them "asian" varieties confuses the less well-informed hobbyist.

    I thought it is quite clear the Endler's is a separate species from the guppy, it doesn't have a scientific name because no one has described it formally and name it in accordance to ICZN rules.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Could be the fact that it is still not described and they are found relatively near guppies and other Poecillids that many still consider them as varieties of guppies... 2 cent worth...

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    well, Dr. Endler stated that he has never observed them to hybridise with guppies.

    I guess most people simply thinks they are varieties of guppies because they look so similar. on the other hand, most of these same people do not have the qualification to make an informed conclusion (yours truly included)
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    If you look closely, Poecilia picta also look like the standard Poecilia reticulata aka Guppy, but it is a separate species.
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    Read an article on TFH... Think a hobbyist went to Venezuela to colect Endlers'. Read he found that the Endler's, Pictas and Recticulatas can cross-breed... Dr Endler reported that he felt that the offsprings, if any, would be sterile but the writer reported fertile offsprings... Interesting info... *Edited*

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    Ah yes, I did come across that issue with that particular article. However I just gave it a quick browse and didn't purchase it because I wasn't too interested in livebearers.

    There are some good livebearer associations in the world that might be able to answer some queries about the Endler's and other guppy-like species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormhawk
    If you look closely, Poecilia picta also look like the standard Poecilia reticulata aka Guppy, but it is a separate species.

    I know! if only I can get my hands on some
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    They can be sourced for... but getting the sellers to ship here is another question altogether. If I could I would want some myself.
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    Hi guys,

    I've 2 separate lines running currently. One of it can be found at Eco Culture. The other one which just started to have fry. I'll post up some pictures if I can get some. By the way, all endlers does not orginate from Asia. It was introduce as a form of mosquitoe control here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CM Media
    Hi guys,

    I've 2 separate lines running currently. One of it can be found at Eco Culture. The other one which just started to have fry. I'll post up some pictures if I can get some. By the way, all endlers does not orginate from Asia. It was introduce as a form of mosquitoe control here.

    Au, your lines refer to Endler's and not P. picta right?
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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