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    First 2 ft Low tech tank

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    Hi all, this is my first newbie fish tank.





    2x1x1ft tank
    Eheim Classic 350
    No brand lily pipe and water skimmer
    Chihiros A601
    Sudo Phantom Black sand + Sudo Real Black
    Seachem Prime
    Seachem flourish
    AZOO micro pellet

    Neon Tetra x 20
    Red Rili Shrimp x7

    Amazon sword
    Anubias nana
    Anubias nana petite
    Crypto Wendtii tropica
    Monte Carlo
    Marimo balls
    Java ferns
    Pond weeds?

    Started planting this tank 10 days ago and added 20 tetra and 10 shrimp last night. Sadly 3 shrimps died this morning. Found one live shrimp inside my canister filter while adding Eheim LAV to it. Think the water skimmer is bad for shrimp.

    Did not cycle the tank as I assume having sufficient plants in there will do the trick.

    Plants seems to be doing well except Monte Carlo. They are..... not dying yet not growing.

    Please help me identify these two plants





    Also should I buy food for my shrimps? Any recommendation?

    Thanks for viewing


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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    For shrimps, no need additional food. They will get what they need from the plants. Sorry can't help you with the identification of plants, I am pretty bad at it. Do watch out for the monte carlo... I think they are not easy in a low-tech but perhaps the more experienced hobbyists can advice.

    For the crypto wendtii tropica, if you had gotten them in a emergent form, they will go through a melting period for about 10 to 14 days. Just be patient, they will then grow new leaves. Will take about 1 month for it to transit to submerged form. Putting root tabs can help.

    For the Amazon sword, this plant should adapt easily in low tech. It also need 1 or 2 root tabs. As the sand you use do not have any nutrients. Amazon swords can grow extensive root system.. which is good for the tank as it keeps the sand aerated.

    Is this your time time having plants in a tank?

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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    Fern not suppose to be plant on the soil/gravel, it will melt. Take it out at tie it on the rocks or wood.
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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    I murdered one of my shrimp while adding new plants (golden nana and narrow leaf fern). It was hiding inside the driftwood. I took out the DW to tie the fern and relocated some nanas on it.

    6 shrimps remaining and all 20 tetras still surviving. Also Added two horned nerite snails.

    @SGDiscus
    So far all plants doing fine. Did not spot any melting on them. Will get root tab for the amazon soon.

    As for the monte carlo, I'm not too worried about them dying as this is my first fish tank. Grow and hope, trial and error.

    Hardest part for me now is finding suitable plants for my tank. Most lfs I visited do not name all their plants.

    @Shadow
    Thanks for your concern. Ferns all tied to wood. I covered them lightly with a thin layer of sand. Is this ok? Or do I need them fully expose?


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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    only the rhizome that need to be fully expose
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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    Noted with thanks. Will do so asap this evening


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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    Looks awesome...youll still probably go through a cycle even with plants...id still watch ammonia with the fauna. Melting will add to the ammonia with feedings.

    Looks very nice.

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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    Right now I'm going to let the tank cycle itself and adding nothing more except plants.

    The micro pellets, I will simply scatter them on water surface with the filter off.

    Tetras will finish most of them off before they even start to sink. Hopefully will not have any problem with ammonia. Probably will start adding more livestock in after 2 to 3 weeks


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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    Quote Originally Posted by tminus View Post
    Right now I'm going to let the tank cycle itself and adding nothing more except plants.

    The micro pellets, I will simply scatter them on water surface with the filter off.

    Tetras will finish most of them off before they even start to sink. Hopefully will not have any problem with ammonia. Probably will start adding more livestock in after 2 to 3 weeks


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    Sounds like a plan. I think it looks real good.

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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    May I know how many times a day are you feeding the tetras?

    Also how long do you have you lights on?

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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    I got a shock when I reached home. Found a few transparent shrimp corpses in my tank!!! Lucky it's just their exoskeletons. My six survivor shrimps still alive lol.



    Feeding my tetras twice a day. Morning and night.

    Lights - 6am to 11am and 6pm to 11pm


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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    Are you dosing Flourish Excel on a daily basis or alternate days?

    Water change once a week?

    For my tanks, I will usually get green spot algae if the lights are too strong or/and switched on for too long. I would consider 10 hours a day too long. But since you broke up the photo period into two blocks of 5 hours, you might get away with it assuming your tank is situated where no sunlight hit it.

    The water change is important because it removes excess organics not used by the plants. Excess organics will lead to other kind of algae and health issues for fishes.

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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    No excel and only flourish as per instruction on the bottle. About 20% water change once a week for now since my tank is not cycled.

    I am clueless about how much lights to provide for the plants. My chihiros A601 lighting is adjustable with setting 1 lowest to 7 highest. Currently at 5 which I feel the brightness is good enough.




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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    What you can do is to observe your plants' growth for the next two weeks based on your current setting. If you like what you see, keep to the routine.

    You can also consider a photo journal using pin interest or something similar to keep track.

    For me, control the amount of lighting based on how fast green spot algae grow on my tank. I am comfortable with light scrubbing once a week.

    If you find your tank being over taken by algae before your next water change, it means something is not balanced. Typically it is the light setting but of course there also other factors.

    And remember if you do adjust your routine (ie dosing frequency or lighr settings or light duration ) try to only adjust one component at a time so that you can understand the effects.

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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    SGDiscus, thanks for ur wonderful advices.

    The two new members of the tank - horned nerite aka bumblebee snails are extremely hardworking at the moment. I'm more worried about them not having enough food lol. Secretly hoping to see some algae = x

    Stupid me... better be careful what I wishing for


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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    Just wondering, does you tetra attack the shrimps....I have red cherry shrimps in my 2 ft..wanted to add cardinal tetra, but many advised against it as the cardinal may eat the shrimps.

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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    Did not notice any harassment or aggression from tetras so far. All still alive.

    Tetra will eat shrimplet tho. I have no intention to breed so I don't mind.




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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    Please help. Is my tetras sick?





    Sorry for the poor quality pictures






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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    hows the tank going tminus

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    Re: First 2 ft Low tech tank

    how's the tank doing? Monte Carlos are very slow to spread, this is for my case especially if you don't use a co2 system.

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