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    Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

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    Hello everyone ,

    Iíve been reading on this forum for a while now. Ever since I bought a pico shrimp tank for kids/wife, the interest in planted aquarium gradually grew.

    Its been a while since I had a fish tank, the last one I had is a 4ft bare gold fish tank more than 20 years ago. Lesser and lesser attention had been given to that tank since college and uni, donít even know when but it was thus left alone.

    Now, fast forward back to the present. Owning the pico shrimp tank for a few weeks, set it up sand base and planted some basic plants. I notice how much I enjoy staring at it lol
    Thus after much deliberation, Iíve decided to clean up a small walkway corner, did some measurement, and figure I could actually house a 4ft tank, but stretching it to 4ft would cramp up the space thus, decided it shall be 3ft then.


    Till date, Iíve acquired a 2L Co2 + ANS solenoid, a Eheim classic 150 which right now I think is insufficient, some lily pipes from a forumer, a 3ft ANS Opticlear tank and a Twinstar 900E LED from east ocean.


    After much reading Iíve decided Iíll go with Dry Start as I still do not know what I want, how I wanna layout etc.



    Today is the 7th day since dry start begun, iíll back post some photos first

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Aquasoil + stone + drift wood added.

    Wife n kids had their time positioning the stone and the wood

    Add water up till soil level.

    Had the Staurogyne Repen and th HC hand chop into smaller chunk, and started planting for the first time...




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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Here is the planted result of day one

    (eik... kept telling me upload of file fail?...)

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    S repens, DSM may melt, so take note. HC on the other hand should be fine. When do you intend to flood the tank?

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Quote Originally Posted by torque6 View Post
    S repens, DSM may melt, so take note. HC on the other hand should be fine. When do you intend to flood the tank?
    On the S Repens, monitoring them daily lol... already 1 week now, s repens show some sight of grown, notice that they are slightly taller comparing to day 1. Leaves are still looking healthy. It might be just me but I think I notice small leaves are growing out from the top? too early for that right?

    Planning to do 6 week DSM, might be doing some addition or rearrangement during this period. still haven't settle on the filter yet, think I might get the ecco pro 300.

    Just sent my 2nd hand 2L CO2 canister for refill at polyart clementi. will test out the solenoid when collected back 3 days later.

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Quote Originally Posted by ross.chang View Post
    On the S Repens, monitoring them daily lol... already 1 week now, s repens show some sight of grown, notice that they are slightly taller comparing to day 1. Leaves are still looking healthy. It might be just me but I think I notice small leaves are growing out from the top? too early for that right?

    Planning to do 6 week DSM, might be doing some addition or rearrangement during this period. still haven't settle on the filter yet, think I might get the ecco pro 300.

    Just sent my 2nd hand 2L CO2 canister for refill at polyart clementi. will test out the solenoid when collected back 3 days later.
    Good idea with DSM. Just remember to spray wet the plants at least twice a day and leave a bit of ventilation when using cling wrap.

    Ecco pro should be fine if there are no stem plants.

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Quote Originally Posted by torque6 View Post
    Ecco pro should be fine if there are no stem plants.
    Why "If there are no stem plants"? Can elaborate a bit for a newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by torque6 View Post
    Good idea with DSM. Just remember to spray wet the plants at least twice a day and leave a bit of ventilation when using cling wrap.
    Ya, now spray/misting the tank before and after work, just did not cling wrap the tank, I believe our high humidity weather should do the trick? lets see.

    Right now I've 2 piece on cling wrap covering portion of the wood with xmas moss tied on it, mosses need higher humidity I suppose, will see how it goes, worst case if mosses die/dried off, will re-tie more mosses before tank flood. still have time...

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Quote Originally Posted by ross.chang View Post
    Why "If there are no stem plants"? Can elaborate a bit for a newbie?


    Ya, now spray/misting the tank before and after work, just did not cling wrap the tank, I believe our high humidity weather should do the trick? lets see.

    Right now I've 2 piece on cling wrap covering portion of the wood with xmas moss tied on it, mosses need higher humidity I suppose, will see how it goes, worst case if mosses die/dried off, will re-tie more mosses before tank flood. still have time...
    Heavily planted tank will require a stronger flow, stem plants when planted on a surface area of say 20x20cm compared to foreground plants = stem plants will have higher density (seeing they grow all the way to the top and branch out when trimmed), thus impending some % of flow. Foreground plants being low growing have less of that.

    Cling wrap is useful to help create the green house effect though.

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Quote Originally Posted by torque6 View Post
    Heavily planted tank will require a stronger flow, stem plants when planted on a surface area of say 20x20cm compared to foreground plants = stem plants will have higher density (seeing they grow all the way to the top and branch out when trimmed), thus impending some % of flow. Foreground plants being low growing have less of that.

    Cling wrap is useful to help create the green house effect though.
    So that means the Eheim ecco pro 300 is not enuf for a 90 x 45 x 45? assuming mid-heavy planted? eg: back with Rotala Ratundifoula and Rotala Bonsai...

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Quote Originally Posted by ross.chang View Post
    So that means the Eheim ecco pro 300 is not enuf for a 90 x 45 x 45? assuming mid-heavy planted? eg: back with Rotala Ratundifoula and Rotala Bonsai...
    ecco 300 is rated at 750L/H without bio/ or mechanical media, course sponge, wool etc. After adding those, you are looking at maybe 1/2 that flow only. But do use it first, then monitor.

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    You're doing something that I've been thinking about doing for a couple of months now, Ross. Can't wait to see what your tank ends up looking like.

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    finally got my day 1 image on the img gallery... lol...

    day 1 planted result



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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Day 2, nothing much special. the Stauroygen looks better than frreshly planted.



    Hands got itchy, took out the driftwood and tied some pieces of xmas moss n fissiden to it...



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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Day3, HC shows little sign of growth, but are slightly taller


    Stauroygen are also growing pretty good

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Day6, hands got itchy again, went to lfs and got meself some new plants (1-2-Grow) Type

    Cryptocoryne wendtii ‘Green'
    Rotala ‘Bonsai'
    Rotala rotundifolia

    had them all chop into pieces and ready to plant:






    Due to back planting, I also made some adjustment by adding the rear height by adding more soil and some stone... and plug some plant from my current running pico tank

    End of Day6:

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Day 9:
    Everything looks good, no sign of melting in any plants, thou had to keep spraying water on the moss attached.


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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Hi may i know how much and where you purchase your tank please advise thank.

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Quote Originally Posted by tarzanboy View Post
    Hi may i know how much and where you purchase your tank please advise thank.
    Tank and LED from east ocean. Not exactly cheap. U can call them up to check the price.

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    Day 25. Added a few more plants: AR Red, Rotala Mac, Pogo. Helferi.

    Growth looking good, except the Rotala Mac not showing much sign of Growth, planted it few days ago via 1-2-Grow pots. one of the Erio Quinquangulare not growing so well, while the other one have it's leaves turned green.

    A few plants pulled from my first nano tank are starting to grow wildly.

    Still looking for a Ludwigia Repens 'Rubin' for the back spot.

    Now that most of them have rooted firmly and growing nicely, should I flood it? lol...

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    Re: Planted Tank Newbie, 3ft Tank, DSM

    You can flood next week. Tank is good to go. Good luck. Great setup.

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