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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everlance View Post
    you can't expect things to change in just 1 day. leave it for about a week and monitor. make sure you get some things right.

    1. lighting - chihiros wrgb is good. start with 6-7 hours max for start.
    2. co2 - seems to be ok if lime green. but can turn up to yellow if got no fishes.
    3. fert - what soil are you using? if ada amazonia, you dont have to dose specialized. just dose premium. make it 2 pumps.
    4. water change - if using amazonia, first week 50% every day, 2nd week 50% every other day. 3rd week once in 3 days. after that twice a week. anti chlorine should always be used during water change. seachem prime is a good one.
    5. filter - seems ok, should be no issue.

    hope this helps.
    Hi thanks for the advise, i shall see the result again in a week. Bought a test kit to see what is the parameters of my waters. If nothing seems wrong then I guess is better to plant other plants .

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    No3 25mgl
    No2 0mgl
    GH under ok range
    Kh also ok range
    Ph think less than 6.4
    Cl2 0.8 . Not ok.

    So either cl2 or ph is the cause for the melting ?

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    Jealous of your Chihiros WRGB II.. Hahaha I'm saving up for that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyKoh View Post
    No3 25mgl
    No2 0mgl
    GH under ok range
    Kh also ok range
    Ph think less than 6.4
    Cl2 0.8 . Not ok.

    So either cl2 or ph is the cause for the melting ?

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    Test strip not that accurate. I used that before. Cheap la but no ammonia reading. If chlorine shows up in the test strip, you might not be dosing the conditioner properly

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    Bo bian liao. At least it should be around that range. Maybe not accurate to the decimal but no choice already buy liao. Haha

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    Can just buy Ammonia and Nitrate solution test, the rest if got budget. Kh and ph solution test to know CO2 concentration. Even that is an estimation.

    I usually test ammonia (Nh3) only. If high eg. 1ppm, just test every few days instead of every day. Maybe I wait for at least a week b4 my 1st test.

    When Nh3 starts to drop to let's say 0.25ppm, I will start testing for Nitrate (NO3). I will stop testing Nh3 and only test for NO3 at few days intervals. If 0ppm NO3, I wait a week before testing again as most likely the nitrogen cycle is in the nitrite (NO2) peak.

    During this filter cycling, I just max out my CO2 diffuser injection by visual micro bubble mist.

    No fert dosing, no adding of fish, no water changes unless using RO water.

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    My pH is >6.4 . Is it ok? Or should I try to raise it to 7? If so, what can I do to increase it?

    A little update, few stems of rotala hra manage to survive.

    Thanks to all the advise

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    Can see you whole tank? Are there any fast growers? Rotala h'ra is kinda sensitive, like rotala bonsai. So what i guess happened to me was, the ammonia leech from the soil melted most of my rotala bonsai away. So after about 2 weeks of cycling, the rotala rotundifolia took root and grew like weed, I floated the surviving rotala bonsai for these 2 weeks, I tried to plant the surviving rotala bonsai again and they took root. Slower growing plants might be more susceptible to the melt? I dunno I might be wrong

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    Till now all are growing quite slow pace. Those that can't survive till be put out and change to other plants.

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    My advice is to just maintain your tank parameters. If your rotala hra managed to pull through, then keep everything as is.
    Any real reason to adjust pH?

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    Yes Jetxx, some plants are sensitive to Nh3.

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    Tank seems to be stable for now . ok now to ask all the pros for tip and trick for water change . siphoning out the water is easy but how about filling up . whats your method of filling up a new planted tank or water change for relatively new planted tank without or minimal disturbance to the plant that yet to able to root to the substrate firmly . i doing scoop by scoop from a pail of water added with api tap water conditioner with a small Tupperware cover on the surface , direct hose is too strong and how to add tap water conditioner ? really noob question i know LOL

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    Simpler to use those coiled garden hose in the long term. After a while using pail will be a chore.
    Added advantages of using hose is you could quickly empty or fill a tank in an emergency.

    I diy a rigid u tube, one to hang on aquarium, the other u tube with the open end facing upwards inside the tank. I sawed away the open end up to lowest point of water level I want to draw out. I connect both with same hose type used for my canister filter.

    And normally we do up to 20% WC only, not changing the whole tank as the water parameter will change too drastically, topping off would not cause substrate to be lifted, just controlled opening of tap water source.
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    My method is to roll out the hose, connect one end to my rigid diy tube to aquarium, other end connect to tap. Fill up hose until use water coming out at aquarium end. Close tap and disconnect hose to start drawing out water. To fill up just plug back hose to tap. During this topping up, I sprinkle Seachem Safe powder in for chloramine removal. Been doing it since like 15 years . Once finished just remove hose at both end, drain excess water inside hose, disconnect rigid tube and roll back hose. And neatly store back everything.

    That simple, no more back pain.
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    Just to add, on days I want to siphon out debris from substrate, after the step where I filled up the hose with water, I switch the aquarium end from U tube to straight tube. Then switch back to U tube for filling up.

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    You add directly into the tank ? For more than 20% change. How do you do ? Let's say 70% change.

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    Draining.jpg

    Hope this adhoc drawing helps (double click for bigger pic). You can adjust to your desired water level. You can see the upwards pointing end will prevent water from disturbing your substrate during top up.

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    Ohhhhhhhhhhh.now I get it

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    Image of my Hose reel. I use quick coupling for fast removal of connection (orange colour). FYI, my tank is about 7m away from my toilet area. The garden hose is 15m in length, more than enough.


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    So you top up with tap water then add the water conditioner?

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    Re: Newly planted tank need some advice and help

    Yes. Even 10 years ago when I bred discus in bare tanks, that's what I did. It's practical. Even with more sensitive fishes or shrimps should be ok. I believe we can acclimatise these sensitive animals up to a degree without harm.

    The main thing is to do it gradually. For example, do 10% WC frequently for a certain period b4 gradually going to 25% weekly.

    I still remember doing 50% water change everyday with my breeding discus. It's because I fed them homemade beefheart mix daily. That was tough.

    I did thought of going RO/DI water setup for water change but the amount of waste water is kind of a guilty waste for me. For every 1 litre of RO, 3 litres go down the drain.

    I change about 50 litres every water change using some of the drained water for my potted plants. If use RO, 150 litres goes to waste each time.

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