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    Eh eh... Many thanks to Phillip for conducting the workshop.

    For the benefit of those who cannot attend but are interested, let me do a summary:

    The type of background that we should be able to make after this workshop:



    We first start with a styrofoam board and draw the basic design:



    Then we cut out the grooves:



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    Then we add in details:




    Use a lighter or a heated spoon and smoothen the edges:



    You can see the difference between the the edges 'treated' with heat and the edges that was not treated here:



    After the 'heat treatment':

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    Now we paint the grooves in a dark colour (poster colour should suffice):



    The grooves after painting:



    Then we colour the rest of the styrofoam with a lighter colour than the groove. Vary the colours according to your taste:



    Add some highlights and it is almost complete!:



    Now we need to cover the whole thing with vanish (2 coats) and let it sun dry. After which, there is a need to spray it with a lemon/lime juice/vinegar-water mix (about 1:20) to treat the surface.
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    After treatment, we can add moss to the surface accordingly:



    Some of the moss available for vivarium/terrarium setups:



    Now... Maybe we can learn how to make this next time:





    Now, if Philip decides to hold another course of making a vivarium... Keke...
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    like this one orh~~~~

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    What type of 'glue' would be applied to the backing of the styrofoam?
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    You mean to attach the styrofoam to the tank? That'll be silicone...
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    vitorhugof, you might want to post your query here so those with the same queries can get the answer also...

    Your query is:

    'Hello can you tell me please if the moss you use in that background is dead or alive??
    If thats alive, were did you get theme??
    Thank you'

    The moss used in the workshop was dead. But you can use live moss too, depending on what your background will be used for.

    As for where to find the dead moss, you have to ask Wildginger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justikanz
    Now... Maybe we can learn how to make this next time:





    Now, if Philip decides to hold another course of making a vivarium... Keke...
    Ambitious rite???? this will be my next attempt it was a great workshop
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    what kind of varnish is being used? (ie: do you have suggested brand names) since poster color is used, seems like the type of paint doesn't matter.

    what's the vinegar/lime mix for?

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    Use those varnish that are for oil paintings etc, should be able to get them from art-friend at Bras Basah complex or straits commerical arts; opposite Bras Basah complex, i think these are organic. A few brands, haven't use these art materials for a long time, winson or something...

    As for the vinger-lime, this is to treat the back-ground to make it safe for the critters
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    Quote Originally Posted by loupgarou
    what kind of varnish is being used? (ie: do you have suggested brand names) since poster color is used, seems like the type of paint doesn't matter.

    what's the vinegar/lime mix for?
    Not true.... thinner based paint will destroy the foam.
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    will the color gone or cause poison to the fish if I use it for planted aquarium backdrop??

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    mmm.. haven't try that in planted tank, , let us know if you are game to try seriously, I don't think it's suitable being immersed in water for long periods
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    If you're planning on using it in an aquatic environment, there is an acrylic based sealant that you can use. I can't remember what's the brand, but you can find it in Artfriend as well. It hardens when it's dry and has a slightly "shiny" finish. It would be good to mix a little fine sand to the final coat of paint before you apply the acrylic sealant, to give it a rougher finish, like real rocks in nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianclaw
    If you're planning on using it in an aquatic environment, there is an acrylic based sealant that you can use. I can't remember what's the brand, but you can find it in Artfriend as well. It hardens when it's dry and has a slightly "shiny" finish. It would be good to mix a little fine sand to the final coat of paint before you apply the acrylic sealant, to give it a rougher finish, like real rocks in nature.
    Very interesting thread of making 3D background.
    I'm planning for the similar project soon and brought a 3'x2'x2" (Styrofoam), 1 bottle of Ashley White Glue (This is to glue the styrofoam together).
    What else do I need?
    - Normal Water paint, is this safe for aquatic tank?
    - 2 Part Epoxy, this is to put a layer on top of Styrofoam before the painting and after which another layer to seal. I guess this is similar to acrylic based sealant you mentioned here? I want to create this kind of effect (as photo)


    Also, can this method be used for creating a slope in the tank?
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    Normal water paint?... like poster? You need to treat it with a spray solution of vinegar and water after painting so that it's safe for the fauna.
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    I think the paint needs to be varnished over (when dry) before the vinegar solution. See post No.3 for the painting and varnishing notes.
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    You're right, i forgot the varnish part.
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    Just a quick sum up, so first need to varnish the foam and then painting and after that another layer of varnish to seal the paint.
    Please advise if that is incorrect. Thanks.
    By the way, what kind of varnish safe for aquatic tank?
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