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    Pangio muraeniformis

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    the spotted eel-loach, very similar to the kuhli loach. from a local population

    Pangio muraeniformis, supposed to be a junior synonym of P. shelfordii but local researchers prefer to retain this name for the Singapore population while P. shelfordii refers to the Kalimantan populations.




    Last edited by hwchoy; 27th Jan 2006 at 17:04.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Probable that they are mixed with khulis for sale? I often see different loaches for sale under khulis...
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    Beautiful. Choy, where did you get this? Wild? Which LFS? *slurp*

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    the spotted eel-loach, very similar to the kuhli loach. from a local population

    Pangio shelfordii



    Great phototaking.. Took my breath out of it... Gosh!!! Told u they are one digusting fellas.. and U sure make them so glamourous.. Gees.thanks..Champ... Start to appreciate what Nature has given and not to be taken for granted...

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    where got disgusting?? Coolie loaches are cute.. and crunchy!!

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    That frontal shot almost looks like a dragon!!! SWEEET!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budak
    where got disgusting?? Coolie loaches are cute.. and crunchy!!
    Freak out when I saw them... my first snakey loach.. tot loach supposed to look like Meow (catfishes)!!!.. Well, perhaps I have not seen enough yet... The photographer sure make it looks good... I am now quite cool about this coolies...

    Crunchy?!!? Gosh..I rather "eat snake" than coolies.. Follows the tradition here..no offense.. "Sayang the Duck"...

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    just curious about the name.

    there's a Pangio muraeniformis at www.loaches.com (http://www.loaches.com/species_pages...eniformis.html)
    which looks totally different. so the one there is wrongly ID-ed?
    i have one that looks like the one in loaches.com..hmm..

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    Quote Originally Posted by budak
    where got disgusting?? Coolie loaches are cute.. and crunchy!!
    Hi.. This is for you.. a whole range of loaches... would it looks nice for sushi?

    http://www.geocities.com/rasbora2004/loach.html

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    Khulis and similar loaches are some of the cutest fish around... My colleagues would go like 'Eee, so cute, like snake like that' when they visit my tank and the khuli decide to do a sneak preview... Heh heh...
    Read me! :bigsmile: http://justikanz.blogspot.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by avant
    just curious about the name.

    there's a Pangio muraeniformis at www.loaches.com (http://www.loaches.com/species_pages...eniformis.html)
    which looks totally different. so the one there is wrongly ID-ed?
    i have one that looks like the one in loaches.com..hmm..
    those are possibly the Kalimantan form known as P. shelfordii.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    ah.. i'm confused by the names. how come they look so different?

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    I guess that's why the local researchers insist on the name (supposed to be synonyms) P. muraeniformis for the local form.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Hi Heng Wah!!
    Its weird!! I can see (load) your beautifull pix completely here, still can not at other "forum".

    Hmm... 3 blotches (bars) at head (not include the snout), black lateral line, and vertical black blotch at caudal base,.... should include in P. shelfordii complex....

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    Hi Budi, I think over there is due to the scaling done by the forum software. the small pix you get is from petfrd server not directly from hexazona. over here they don't do scaling.

    definitely P. muraeniformis is part of P. shelfordii group, just that the scientists prefers to continue to use the locality-based name even though they are accepted as synonyms. of course this only works when we know the locality. that's why your sucker pix are so important because you know where you caught them.

    I respect local scientists.
    Last edited by hwchoy; 28th Jan 2006 at 23:00.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Sound nice, since the pattern of body of different locality is very different, but the problem is they also very variable even in the same area!!

    Got another variant beside the continous lateral line there?

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    actually this is not a good pix as the fish was alarmed during shooting. when it colours up the dorsal spots are very strong and the orange base is richer too. trying to get a better pix
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Btw, your pix more swee now!!

    I also have some Pangio, identified as P. shelfordii too, but I guess its another species, since it have only 2 blocthes at head, but still have black blotch at caudal base. Will try to get better pix, and see how your opinion about them. Not easy for me to get pix of them, since this fishes quite shyi in front camera!!

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    gotta find some way for you to ship your fishes over
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    hmmm....
    E M S !!!!! .............can ?????

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