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  • I use it because everyone advises me to use it.

    22 8.91%
  • I use it because I understand the effect of chlorine & chloramine on fishes.

    199 80.57%
  • I don't use it because it has no impact on my fishes health.

    19 7.69%
  • I don't use it because the treated water in my area is good.

    7 2.83%
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    i dont use cause i have age water tank in store room

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    I use it during every water change and when setting up new tanks.

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    but the problem is.

    chlorine dissapate over time.. thus better to aged water.

    but the new addition chloromaine doesn't and need the anti-chlorine&chloromaine to remove...

    for me, there was a difference, before i used.. fishes die unexpectedly. now.. the tank seems peaceful.


    joys of keeping fishes

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    is a good practise to use anti-chlorine&chloromaine solution NOW.
    you may not know what/when PUB going to add extra minerals in our local water tomorrow

    CHeers..

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    guys for new tank and waterchange ah just add anti chlorine and anti chloromine I dont need to age the water anymore right?
    Last edited by benny; 7th Oct 2007 at 10:38.

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    If your fishes are hardy, then you may not wish to age the water. However, for more sensitive fishes, some aquarists will still take the time to age the water as additional precautions.

    For new tanks however, I don't quite understand the need to age the water in the first place. This is because you will need to let your tank go through the nitrogen cycle before adding any fishes.

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    aging water remove chlorine and aerating remove chloromine
    Give someone a , you will feed him a day. Teach him how to rear , he might just run away. 说了又不听, 听了又不懂, 不懂又不问, 问了又不做, 做了又做错, 错了又不认, 认了又不改, 改了又不服, 不服又不说

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    almost all discus breeders just use a simple sponge filter

    Quote Originally Posted by benny View Post
    Sounds like someone I know!!

    On a more serious note, our water is heavily treated and is not the most ideal for fishes. That's why discus/guppy breeders uses carbon block filtration to try to remove the chlorine, chloramine as well as heavy metals. Makes a world of difference to your livestocks.

    Cheers,
    Give someone a , you will feed him a day. Teach him how to rear , he might just run away. 说了又不听, 听了又不懂, 不懂又不问, 问了又不做, 做了又做错, 错了又不认, 认了又不改, 改了又不服, 不服又不说

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    it should be very safe since we can drink directly from the tap except for those "sensitive" fish . . just my 2 cents

    Quote Originally Posted by Interestor View Post
    is a good practise to use anti-chlorine&chloromaine solution NOW.
    you may not know what/when PUB going to add extra minerals in our local water tomorrow

    CHeers..
    Give someone a , you will feed him a day. Teach him how to rear , he might just run away. 说了又不听, 听了又不懂, 不懂又不问, 问了又不做, 做了又做错, 错了又不认, 认了又不改, 改了又不服, 不服又不说

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    i uses anti-chlorine&chloromaine solution as i dun keep aged water

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    Quote Originally Posted by simplydiscus View Post
    aging water remove chlorine and aerating remove chloromine
    I don't think this is accurate.
    The whole idea of using cholramine in water treatment is that it does not get dissipated easily.
    - eric

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    Just keep a simple chlorine tester handy if unsure.
    Chlorine is the deadly substance. The 'amine' is there to keep the chlorine in the water longer.
    You can if you dare to fail - Stan Chung

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    I can't believe that people still do not think that chlorine and chloramine are things you never want to be adding into your aquarium.

    A $5.00 bottle of antichlorine/anti-chloramine goes a long way, do not skimp on this.

    If you think its bad to be adding chemicals to your water to remove the chlorine / chloramine, you need to do more research on its effects and the comparatively harrmless chemical reactions involved in removing it.

    Age your water whenever possible, IN ADDITION to treating it with anti-chlorine/chloramine.


    For those too lazy to do the reading, in summary:

    - Chlorine and chloramine kills stuff that lives in water, including your fauna.
    - Chlorine and chloramine will poison your fauna slowly if they do not die immediately.
    - Your flora and fauna will do better without chlorine/chloramine in your system.
    - Aging and aerating the water is not an effective method of removing chloramine.
    - Chemically removing the chlorine / chloramine is better than leaving it in the water.
    - Activated carbon filtration is good, but you need to change filters regularly.


    Super condensed version:

    Chlorine / Chloramine - BAD
    Aging Chloraminated water without treatment- BAD

    Distilled Water - GOOD
    Anti-Chlorine/Chloramine - GOOD
    Carbon Filtration - GOOD

    What kind of responsible aquarist doesn't already know all this?
    This is not marketing spiel or superstition, this is chemistry, and biology.



    More reading if you're so inclined.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine
    http://www.h2ou.com/h2wtrqual.htm#Chlorine
    http://www.bio-elite.com/chlorine_faq.htm
    http://www.petplace.com/fish/chlorin...ity/page1.aspx
    http://theaquariumwiki.com/Chloramine

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    I can't believe that people still do not think that chlorine and chloramine are things you never want to be adding into your aquarium.

    A $5.00 bottle of antichlorine/anti-chloramine goes a long way, do not skimp on this.

    If you think its bad to be adding chemicals to your water to remove the chlorine / chloramine, you need to do more research on its effects and the comparatively harrmless chemical reactions involved in removing it.

    Age your water whenever possible, IN ADDITION to treating it with anti-chlorine/chloramine.


    For those too lazy to do the reading, in summary:

    - Chlorine and chloramine kills stuff that lives in water, including your fauna.
    - Chlorine and chloramine will poison your fauna slowly if they do not die immediately.
    - Your flora and fauna will do better without chlorine/chloramine in your system.
    - Aging and aerating the water is not an effective method of removing chloramine.
    - Chemically removing the chlorine / chloramine is better than leaving it in the water.
    - Activated carbon filtration is good, but you need to change filters regularly.


    Super condensed version:

    Chlorine / Chloramine - BAD
    Aging Chloraminated water without treatment- BAD

    Distilled Water - GOOD
    Anti-Chlorine/Chloramine - GOOD
    Carbon Filtration - GOOD

    What kind of responsible aquarist doesn't already know all this?
    This is not marketing spiel or superstition, this is chemistry, and biology.



    More reading if you're so inclined.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine
    http://www.h2ou.com/h2wtrqual.htm#Chlorine
    http://www.bio-elite.com/chlorine_faq.htm
    http://www.petplace.com/fish/chlorin...ity/page1.aspx
    http://theaquariumwiki.com/Chloramine

    Thanks for the summary. Can't agree with you more

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    That myth about aerating water to remove chloramine is still around?! I'm guessing you heard that from the LFS guy...

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    i definitely use it everytime i do a wc..

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    just curious...do you add those anti solutions after adding water inside tank, or add to pails of water before adding to tank?

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    Tiny, no harm in adding them directly to the tank, but the dosage should be based on the amount of tap water you're adding. The chemical itself evaporates with the chlorine and chloramine or, ends up being broken down by your nitrifying bacteria in the filter.

    And on the topic of "It's safe for fish because I can drink the water" I feel I should point out several flaws in that line of reasoning before either the pet owner or the pet gets killed;

    1) Fish can breathe perfectly well in water that will kill you.

    2) Humans can take 20x more Cu in our drinking water than fish and crustaceans can breathe without dying.

    3) Dogs & cats die from eating chocolate, try to apply this logic of being different species to your aquarium.

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    Quote Originally Posted by solonavi View Post
    One more thing that have been on my mind, since Chloramine is chlorine + NH3, could this be the reason why some of us is experiencing cloudly water after doing large water change (when we also added anti-chlorine which effectively only remove chlorine and not the NH3)?

    JC
    Thanks for the info , bro

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    Re: Poll: Anti Chlorine & Chloramine

    I cannot imagine myself aging 150 liters of water weekly on my 600litres tank .

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