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    [Split from AQ Farm Excursion Sep 06 - Comments/Pictures. ~vinz]

    Cameraman, can share what is the model of the camera you are using, the picture is damn good..
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    Joe, it has nothing to do with the camera... Its about the lens...
    Anyway, the camera Benny was using was a Canon 1DMkII with a 16-35mm L USM... Total cost nearly 8k? Hahaha...
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    Quote Originally Posted by valice
    Joe, it has nothing to do with the camera... Its about the lens...
    Anyway, the camera Benny was using was a Canon 1DMkII with a 16-35mm L USM... Total cost nearly 8k? Hahaha...
    Total? I remember the camera alone cost more than 10k?
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    Quote Originally Posted by valice
    Joe, it has nothing to do with the camera... Its about the lens...
    Anyway, the camera Benny was using was a Canon 1DMkII with a 16-35mm L USM... Total cost nearly 8k? Hahaha...
    correction, its the man behind the camera. I have seen some people with expensive equipments but the result is . Equipment plays a part, but the person behind plays a bigger part

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    But then if a person brought a 10k worth camera and lens, surely the guy got to learn to take good picture. Like Benny and Valice.

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    woooooh.... Me photos are still not up to standard yet... There is also very good photos from CK Yeo, Choy, mervin and other...
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    not really, some hobbyist would think that a good camera will naturally take good picture. And also like all hobbies, some has the 'touch' while the rest doesn't, no matter how hard they try

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    I beg to differ on the part of touch... Think for aquatic photography, composition and posing of the subject is not a big science unlike human photgraphy... So it is alot of practise and the correct setup to take a good fish picture...

    So, it is much easier to shoot a fish than a person... Where you need to consider messy hair and dirty soles... Blah...
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    same theory, i have seen it many times before, every aspect of photography is the same, practise does make it better, like macro photography shots are usually closeup, but still some never can get the composition right, nor the pic is pleasing to the eye, even when everything else is correct.

    anyway, like I said before, equipment is just a tool, it is the person behind that makes a diff

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    Good skills + good equipment = best combo.

    Good skills make the best of bad equipment.

    Good equipment usually do not compensate for bad skill.
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    I am dumb founded! 10K for a camera

    The skill must be equally good to match the price of the camera right?

    Now I know the reason why my picture is always comparing to Benny's..
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    That is not the reason, Benny has been taking pictures for donkey years so....he'll probably still beat us using a G6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michael lai
    That is not the reason, Benny has been taking pictures for donkey years so....he'll probably still beat us using a G6.

    okok, stop argueing, maybe benny can show us one of his pictures taken using a mobile phone to compare?
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    I will say it is the necessary equipment, plus the photographer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goondoo
    okok, stop argueing, maybe benny can show us one of his pictures taken using a mobile phone to compare?
    Ok. Just buy me the the K800i and I will show you something that you won't believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael lai
    That is not the reason, Benny has been taking pictures for donkey years so....he'll probably still beat us using a G6.
    Nope. I haven't taken picture for quite sometime. Rusty already.

    Cheers,

    Quote Originally Posted by taygu
    Cameraman, can share what is the model of the camera you are using, the picture is damn good..
    Thanks Joe for your kind compliments.

    The pictures were taken with a Canon Digital SLR. It does not matter which model. You can get the same pictures with a Canon 300D which you can buy used for just a few hundred dollars too.

    Quote Originally Posted by taygu
    The skill must be equally good to match the price of the camera right?

    Now I know the reason why my picture is always comparing to Benny's..
    I'm not trained in photography, but I'm more than happy to share all that I know with the folks here. All that matter is your sincere and geniune interest. You picture can be just as good if not better that what you see posted here.

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    Someone buy Benny the cell phone!

    It's definitely the person behind the camera, and lens, that really matters. I've seen his works from others' cameras and the shots were still very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn
    Someone buy Benny the cell phone!

    It's definitely the person behind the camera, and lens, that really matters. I've seen his works from others' cameras and the shots were still very good.
    hehe.... I am not saying benny is no good... infact he is very good... I had always liked his fishy pictures

    However, I believe a decent lense and camera are required to bring the correct pictures to life

    PS: Benny, surely you do not need a good camera phone to take good pictures right?
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    don't forget photoshop skills too!
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    I agree with Goondoo. Good equipment enhance the skill of the photographer. But the knowledge attained in the skill of picture taking with good equipment is far better than the knowledge attained in the skill of picture taking with a decent equipment.

    Btw, is Canon coming out a camera model with a handphone attachment thingy? This will seriously replace all the memory card business in the world. Nobody will need a memory card anymore, after taking picture, transfer it straight into the internet to store to a personal folder. I'll buy that if it came out! There's handphone with camera but there's no camera with handphone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goondoo
    PS: Benny, surely you do not need a good camera phone to take good pictures right?
    Actually, I need a new handphone. Mine is broken. Since you guys doubt the phone, I might as well show you what you can potentially do with them if you are generous enough to sponsor me a set.

    I also moderate on www.arofanatics.com's photography section and here's a thread dedicated to phone aquatic photography.

    http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=241925

    Pehaps we should start one here?

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