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    Help my Tonina melted

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    I've been having this plants for 5 months without problem, I've been trimming it twice but recently the leaft starting to turn transparent. Other plant such as HM, Downoi, Glosso, Jap Hair grass, Vallisneria, Rotala sp "mini' and rotala wallichii) have no problem

    Any idea why?
    Is it because the water mixed with CO2 too acidic and keep blowing toward it?
    Is it because I acidentally spray fert on top of it?
    Is it lack of some minerals?

    Tank spec:
    Dimension: 2ft x 1ft x 1.2ft
    Light: 55W 9hrs
    Temp: 26-28 degree
    Substrate: ADA Aquasoil AfricanaFilter: 1000l/hr
    CO2: 3 bubble/sec with DIY ext reactor (~100% mixed, can't see bubble comming out from rainbar)

    I dose using EI:
    Monday: KNO3 + KH2PO4
    Tuesday: LUSHgro Aqua
    Wednesday: KNO3 + KH2PO4
    Thrusday: LUSHgro Aqua
    Friday: KNO3 + KH2PO4
    Saturday: LUSHgro Aqua
    Sunday: 30% water change
    Last edited by Shadow; 27th May 2007 at 11:03.

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    Was it growing well before this?
    You can if you dare to fail - Stan Chung

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    Shadow, consider adding some Ca/Mg source like Seachem Equilibrium and clean the filter / check the CO2 rate.

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    Peter Gwee
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanChung View Post
    Was it growing well before this?
    yes, grow very well for the last 5 months

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterGwee View Post
    Shadow, consider adding some Ca/Mg source like Seachem Equilibrium and clean the filter / check the CO2 rate.
    LushGro Aqua got Mg but no Ca. What is the dosage for Seachem Equilibrium? Should I stop the LushGro Aqua and switch to Sechem Equilibrium? I'm also having problem determind the doses for LushGro Aqua.
    CO2 rate is maintain 3 bubble/second
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    Dose 1/8 teaspoon of Seachem Equilibrium after the water change only. I personally do not use nor like LushGro Aqua since its a mix of KNO3 and trace mix. I rather use a regular trace mix product like Seachem Flourish, Ferka Aquatilizer or Plant Nutrition Liquid by Tropica.

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    OK will look for those product:
    Seachem Flourish, Ferka Aquatilizer or Plant Nutrition Liquid by Tropica.

    Thanks all for the inputs, hope it help, no magic only time can tell

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    My guess is it has to come from a Ca/Mg issue or CO2. Dosing Seachem Equilibrium would rule things out and all that is left is CO2. If you use the filter flow to run the CO2 reactor, you would need to keep the filter clean pretty often as the decrease in flowrate (filters are meant to clog over time) would impact the mixing in the reactor as well as mixing in the tank.

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    Just clean the filter this morning, I don't see any clog, in the filter as well as in the pipe. So I hope you are right, lack of Ca/Mg.

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    Smile hi

    HI Bro...I have tried tonina on lapis with base fert....failed not once but 3 times all Tonina slowly day by day it rot/melt...frustrated turn to Ada soil with no base fert...pump co2 plus high light...now it grows like weeds

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    yeah I'm using ADA also. It was growing like weed for the last 5 months, it just sudently start melted. So PeterGwee might be right, the Ca/Mg in the water have been used and now lack of it. I don't think because of CO2, because my tank is not over run by Algae.

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    Sorry Mod, from the way it is going, I think it should be on the Fertilisation and Algae section

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    regarding the Ca/Mg, how do we go about dosing it ? in what form ?
    I am using ferka aquatilizer, is it part of it ?
    if not , what should i get ? any LushGRO product that can help supplement it ?

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    bro PeterGwee recomend to dosse with Seachem Equilibrium every water change.

    Would lack of Potasium causing this? I just realise it that dosing KNO3 only, will give about 5ppm, recomended range is 10-30ppm. Maybe I should start K2SO4

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    That is not the issue...definitely not a lack of K+ issue if you dose KNO3 for all the NO3.

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    Peter Gwee
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    does it mean that 5ppm potasium is enough?

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    arg.... I know what happen, just saw couple of yamato shrimp eating my Tonina. The Tonina was ok yesterday night, but not today. The effect of lack nutrient can't be this fast. I guess need to change it with other plants

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    That is definitely not the issue....The plant is properly dying which is why the shrimps are eating it.

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