reebok4190's new Altum Angels!!!

**reebok4190** · 14th Jul 2007, 19:47

Yup, I took almost half the 2nd batch from C328 in my purchase. Their finnage are bloody red and high...

YouTube - Altum Angels

A great buy for me since i waited for along time..

**StanChung** · 14th Jul 2007, 20:24

Wow! pictures please!!!

**valice** · 14th Jul 2007, 20:47

What's the colour of the eyes?

**reebok4190** · 14th Jul 2007, 21:10

Hi, Valice... What is in for the eyes? I know you have read alot on fishes, mind sharing what is in for the eyes? Definitely not ...An eye for an eye.. i hope..

**reebok4190** · 18th Jul 2007, 18:46

YouTube - Altum Angels

**andrewtyr** · 18th Jul 2007, 21:55

How about still pictures? I would like to see the profile of the fish. Thanks!

**valice** · 23rd Jul 2007, 20:42

Originally Posted by reebok4190

Hi, Valice... What is in for the eyes? I know you have read alot on fishes, mind sharing what is in for the eyes? Definitely not ...An eye for an eye.. i hope..

I am not sure if I am 100% correct on this, but from observation of pictures and also information I learnt from fellow cichlid lovers, true Altums don't have the red colouration on the eye, while the P.scalare have them.

Hope someone can correct me on this misinformation if it is indeed wrong.

**David Moses Heng** · 23rd Jul 2007, 21:12

mind if i ask how much you pay for them? What valice might be right...

**reebok4190** · 23rd Jul 2007, 22:24

Originally Posted by valice

I am not sure if I am 100% correct on this, but from observation of pictures and also information I learnt from fellow cichlid lovers, true Altums don't have the red colouration on the eye, while the P.scalare have them.

Hope someone can correct me on this misinformation if it is indeed wrong.

ok. The altum I've got don't have red eyes but red finnages...they are similar to ones kept by the french collector at finarama. I am excited as his collection of his altum beauties stunned me. Definitely a prized purchased.. I did peep at them with a torchlight in the night. Gosh, my heart stopped for a minute...its exactly the ones i hope to have. Guess my wait does pay off.. The last time, the angels I've got were not Altum Angels..they are scalare.. confirmed at finarama.

But I guess, more importantly is are these the fishes you want and desire to keep and pay? Really up to the individual preference.. Some willing to pay sky rocket price for them while some seeks the other way.. No harm done..as hobby is still a hobby..an individual's interest.

**CK Yeo** · 23rd Jul 2007, 22:32

Here is an article by Heiko Bleher on the different angels written for a company sometime ago.
http://www.hagen.com/pdf/aquatic/NUT...TIC_NEWS_3.pdf

ck

**AA24** · 24th Jul 2007, 00:25

hi.. any update on how the fish are doing..??..

also, how did you do the acclimatisation to your tank...??..

and, lastly... what are you feeding the altums...??..

much thanks...

**David Moses Heng** · 24th Jul 2007, 12:38

Originally Posted by reebok4190

ok. The altum I've got don't have red eyes but red finnages...they are similar to ones kept by the french collector at finarama. I am excited as his collection of his altum beauties stunned me. Definitely a prized purchased.. I did peep at them with a torchlight in the night. Gosh, my heart stopped for a minute...its exactly the ones i hope to have. Guess my wait does pay off.. The last time, the angels I've got were not Altum Angels..they are scalare.. confirmed at finarama.

But I guess, more importantly is are these the fishes you want and desire to keep and pay? Really up to the individual preference.. Some willing to pay sky rocket price for them while some seeks the other way.. No harm done..as hobby is still a hobby..an individual's interest.

how big are your fish? they might be too small to tell if they are geniue or not. Any pics to share

**reebok4190** · 24th Jul 2007, 20:23

Originally Posted by AA24

hi.. any update on how the fish are doing..??..

also, how did you do the acclimatisation to your tank...??..

and, lastly... what are you feeding the altums...??..

much thanks...

The altums are doing extremely well. So far, it has been a great experience. Managed to get a link of the altum which is similar to mine.

http://www.finarama.com/gallery/lionelfichen.htm

anything that feeds the mouth, they are wild and not to be pampered.

Have been feeding frozen blood worm after a wash of them, dry pellet and cherry shrimps...

**reebok4190** · 13th Jan 2008, 22:21

Its been awhile now... Here is the update... Cheers..and Happy New Year!!!

YouTube - Growing up

**illumnae** · 14th Jan 2008, 09:24

majestic fish you have there. perhaps you could share with us how you care for your fish? altums are notoriously difficult to keep i've heard

**Simon** · 14th Jan 2008, 14:38

yes, Altums are notorius for their appetite

if you have slow swimmer, you can jolly kiss them good bye. They love to prey on shrimps, pencilfishes, cardinal tetras or other shinning tetras and they hunt in packs at night, witness a few times where they herd the pencilfish, goes into a 45 degree attack mode and snap the pencilfish into 2 then swims away, but they do love yamatos. Good number to start with is 5-6 where they establish a pecking order in the group.

Also advisable to keep them in a min. 2ft deep tank, I did an experiment on mine years back and 2 of them in my 2ft stayed small, while the rest in the 6ft grew to as big as 17 inches from tip to tip.

Favorite Altum saying "If it can fit into their mouth, it probably end up in there"

**ccs** · 19th Jan 2008, 08:13

Originally Posted by valice

I am not sure if I am 100% correct on this, but from observation of pictures and also information I learnt from fellow cichlid lovers, true Altums don't have the red colouration on the eye, while the P.scalare have them.

Hope someone can correct me on this misinformation if it is indeed wrong.

The last time round when i bought my altums from Gans. They had red eyes but after sometimes the red eyes became amber in color. Not sure if it had anything to do with the beef heart that Gan fed them.

**Simon** · 19th Jan 2008, 08:28

the eyes should be black not red.

**ccs** · 20th Jan 2008, 07:49

But the eye is not totally black right. The edge is red.

**reebok4190** · 20th Jan 2008, 12:05

Not to be overly bother, These are fishes from the wild, bound to have some different in variation. Beside, if you have gotten from a reliable source where most people are getting from, you can be assured of what you are getting.

My altum angels which have grown bigger and stronger now, do have red tone at the side of the eyes. If you want to be well-informed the differences or more information on altum angels, peruvian angels, Scalare Angels or etc... either a google search on these beauties or dropby www.finarama.com look at the gallery..a pictures speak a thousand word.