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Thread: Vibrancy in Fish Photo: Photoshop or Camera?

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    I always wondering how come the photo is much nicer? The color is more vibrant. Is it because of camera or it is after photo shop thouch up? Maybe I should by 2nd hand DSLR and try it out.
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    Its neither the camera nor the photoshop. Its the technique and lighting. If you observed the fishes closely when they flare, these are their true colours.
    Last edited by valice; 26th Aug 2007 at 13:26.
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    I'm sure when you took the photo, it was not as vibrant. However the flash maybe effecting the color. Normally we see it under the normal fluorescence light, maybe the color spectrum of the fluorescene light not be as even compare to flash light.
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    With that, you are wrong again. The fishes are as vibrant as the ones posted. Some of the guys who saw the LCD display of the pictures can vouch for that.

    Of course, if you are comparing PNS camera to DSLR. DSLR gives you more freeplay to adjust your camera settings as well as lightings. Here's a picture taken using my PNS camera. Equally vibrant colours.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Hongsloi1.jpg
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    There are certain times when with flash, you see colours on the fish which you wouldn't see under normal FL lighting.
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    Another point to note is that the lens we using are macro lens. So the details of the fish are more define and with adequate lightings, we see details and colours that we often missed out when looking at the moving fish.

    Hmmm...kind of difficult to explain in words because i am a newbie too.
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    Agree on that, the fishes are keep moving, so we probably only see few second at a time. Thus miss the detail.

    You took a great picture with PNS camera. Did you use extra flash as well? The build in flash in PNS camera will cause a reflection from the glass
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    I do not use flash when i was shooting with the PNS camera. You are right, flash will be reflected off the glass and your fish will appear rather pale and washed out.

    Using the PNS camera, i had to use strong lightings for the tank to make up for the lightings. I used a 2x36W PL for that shot in a 1.5ft tank. And without flash, it means your hands have to be very still and the subject has to be stationary as well...otherwise, the picture will turn out blurred which is reflected in my picture if either of you moved.

    Here is a better shot with my PNS. Both me and fish were stationary.
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    I try your suggestion and the result isn't that bad, except for the fact that lost of green spot algae on the glass

    Manage to get better photo using PNS camera, unprocessed only resize. Is there any link at camera section on how to do touch up using photoshop or other program? I have not do the search on that section yet though

    Last edited by benny; 29th Aug 2007 at 17:47. Reason: Merge posts
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    Angle of lighting plays a big part. Most times we view fishes with lighting from the top. In photography, we control the angle of the light. Most time the flash is diagonally above, or straight on from the side.

    In my tank, my arowana, only showed 'normal' arowana colours, i.e. brown, red and gold. Once it got injured and I had to bring it to one of the arowana shops for 'consultation'. The show office has pure white walls and a couple of 4ft white fluorescent tubes. With bright white light bouncing off all the walls, I was pleasantly surprised by the violet sheen that I never knew my fish possessed.

    If you visit arowana shops, you will notice many of them hang lights in front of the tank facing inwards.
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    Sigh!! Another hobby to tempt me. Although this is much cheaper than the old days where I have to go process the flims and print them out, the equipments are still as expensive. Hmmm .... wonder how much more of this photography thing I can resist before buying myself a more decent camera.

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    haha i feel your pain luenny! just a month or 2 back, after seeing vincent and eugene's wonderful photos, i was very tempted to get myself a dslr and macro lens and delve into learning about fish photography. i had to pull myself back and remind myself that it's alot of money + i'm no good at photography + i have no patience, that's why i got a 2nd hand pns for simple/lousy shots instead haha
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    Looking very good!
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    The hardest part is the waiting, have to wait until the fish really stand still and close to the glass. Have not been able to take nice female ram photo yet, still trying.
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    very nice shot Shadow!

    could i enquire are you using the macro function on your PnS or zooming in real close with flash?

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    He used the techinique i said earlier, using macro mode, holding the camera very still, wait for subject to be still, and took the shot without flash.

    great shot Robert
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    No flash, but extra light, I replace the light from 36W to 55W temporary on my 1.5 tank for the shot as suggested by Eugenes.

    I'm using macro. I found it hard to focus using zoom, the auto focus end up focusing on the glass. Not sure if it is because of my camera. On the other hand the macro autofocus seems able to focus beyond the glass. I need to patiently wait until the fish close enough to the glass and take the shot.

    yup-yup, practicing Eugene technique

    Thanks for the encouragement
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    ok thanks that's what i'm doing too currently, but with lousier quality shots as my light's only at 18W

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    More light and you'll get better shots!

    Luenny, better save your money to buy nice discus! kekeke.

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    but more lights and i'll get algae problems! haha gotta make a choice between photography or balanced tank i guess

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