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    Again, this would be between the buyer and seller.

    Sometimes the buyer gets the short end of the stick when the item is not as good or in the condition that they have bargined for sometimes it is the other way around.

    Generally it is a buyer beware situation and in this case, it was a seller's good will that is taken advantage of.

    I think we should not lose faith in people just because there was a bad experience.

    Just my 2 cents worth.
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    Transactions can go awry for many reasons. Perhaps Exotic really had money problems, and just managed his money poorly and handled the situation really badly.

    Exotic is not being banned because of ahmiao's allegations. He is being banned for the series of actions he took after the allegations surfaced.

    What really tick me off is the way Exotic tried to run away from the problems by trying to get his account 'canceled' and still had the gall to create a new account to continue to operate in AQ. Not only that, he went the extra mile to make sure people do not think that ast21 is him. When I ignored his 'cancelation' and ban requests, he resorted to juvenile behaviour, posting vulgar, demeaning messages in a lady's introduction thread.

    That was the last straw. Before the vulgar messages, I was still prepared to see this through to a satisfactory resolution. I even gave the benefit of doubt that money problems was causing his irresponsible behaviour (I suspect some of the moderators think I'm too nice sometimes). Once those messages came out, the decision was easy.

    Frankly, it's beyond my comprehension why he would go through so much trouble just to avoid paying $50 or returning the chiller. I can only think of suspicious circumstances. Is he going to change his handphone number too, so that Ahmiao cannot track him down? Why bother to register a new account? So he can continue to conduct shady deals?
    Last edited by vinz; 21st Sep 2007 at 16:36.
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    Haha. Don't be mistaken about my position about the case. I am just commenting on the buyer and seller relationship. Just hoping that it would still be cordial and not guarded due to this one unpleasant case.

    For this case, I guess the actions are definitely justified.

    There should be no reason to behave as such (the posting).

    Was surprise as hell to see that the behaviour degenerated to such a level as to making it an embrassement to the forum.

    I was dealing with him on some sales previously and he seems to be ok.
    Alex

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    Were you the buyer or the seller?
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    Just wondering, how old is exotic? If he is a grown man, its right he be held responsible for his unruly behaviour in this forum.
    Sometimes, we just have to be extra careful when it comes to dollars and cents. Especially when dealing with people you do not know.
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    Luckily I am the buyer.
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    Lucky me, I almost got some Cherry shrimps from him. Told me 6pm but I waited till 7pm still no sound no shadow
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    http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...d.php?p=270189
    appollo: is exotic the buyer? //@@

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    sad, to see this happen. think its better to deal cash & carry. first come first serve.
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    I think the issue here is beyond the 'cash and carry' transaction, although it's unfortunate for ahmiao who got ripped off.

    This episode, plus his juvenile retarded behavior after is more indicative of him as a person.

    By the way, is he the first person ever to be banned from AQ? If so, should he be given an award? Like the 'Slimey Fish' award?

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    Nope. Not counting the spammers, we've definitely banned a few other members before. But usually we don't make an announcement about it.
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    Dear Forumers,

    Sorry no offence if I am saying this...
    Let's not go into personal attacks... when such things happen, there is a lesson for everybody to learn. So, I will like to say that we should just learn this lesson and forget about whose at fault. We should just keep those comments to ourselves.

    Everybody make mistakes... so do you and myself.

    I personally don't like the way he writes but he has received his punishment by been banned from AQ. Although he is not welcome back to AQ, I think we should just leave this matter to rest and let ahmiao deal with him on his short payment.

    Sorry, no offence on my comment.
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    Yup, life go on. Let move on ....
    Last edited by vinz; 22nd Sep 2007 at 11:43. Reason: Remove unnecessary quoting
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    Sorry but i was also one of his victims...
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    Im not sure about what Im going to say, but I still think we should hand this case to the Police? We dont want more people getting cheated by baddies right? people.

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    Once I did a transaction with him. Did not get what I really want, but something of a lower grade (CRS). Just to get over the problem, I requested a small discount which he agreed.
    Anyway, just let the matter rest.

    Sellers and buyers must be prepare to face such circumstances whenever they wanted to trade. Be prepare to lose some - usually sellers, buyers always love to bargain to get the best deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salexjared View Post
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    Was surprise as hell to see that the behaviour degenerated to such a level as to making it an embrassement to the forum.

    I was dealing with him on some sales previously and he seems to be ok.
    Quote Originally Posted by vinz View Post
    Were you the buyer or the seller?
    Quote Originally Posted by salexjared View Post
    Luckily I am the buyer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peterfoo View Post
    Once I did a transaction with him. Did not get what I really want, but something of a lower grade (CRS). Just to get over the problem, I requested a small discount which he agreed.
    Anyway, just let the matter rest.

    Sellers and buyers must be prepare to face such circumstances whenever they wanted to trade. Be prepare to lose some - usually sellers, buyers always love to bargain to get the best deal.
    Looks like he's much better at taking money than paying money.

    True, transactions can go bad for many reasons. Sometimes, even just out of misunderstanding. Bargaining is almost a given.

    However, Exotic's desperation to cancel his account or get himself banned, and his actions to mislead members about his new account simply reeks of outright dishonesty. If it was a simple mis-understanding, or if he has real problems, he could have handled it in many less suspicious ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by TBoss View Post
    Im not sure about what Im going to say, but I still think we should hand this case to the Police? We dont want more people getting cheated by baddies right? people.
    That is a decision for ahmiao to make.

    AQ however does keep an eye on things and will take necessary action if anything suspicious shows up. Which is why we monitor for multiple accounts, require mass order organisers to verify their identity, have post count prerequisites for Marketplace threads and other measures.
    Vincent - AQ is for everyone, but not for 'u' and 'mi'.
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    A woman: without her, man is nothing.

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    I think it's time that this thread is put to rest. I will close it now.
    Vincent - AQ is for everyone, but not for 'u' and 'mi'.
    Why use punctuation? See what a difference it makes:
    A woman, without her man, is nothing.
    A woman: without her, man is nothing.

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