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    Aiyo, can feel the pain for you, turaco.
    Initially when I placed them in the tank, the male was chasing the female fiercely. But in the next few days saw them mating. But to wonder, this is the 2nd time mouthbrooding. The 1st brood on the 24th Dec was swallowed by the male after 2 or 3 days of mouthbrooding. But shortly after, I saw the male mouthbrooding again. It's been 10 days or so holding the eggs. Still no sign of releasing the fries. I was wondering if the male have been mouthbrooding for more than 10 days, is it a sure sign that I will expect to see fries? I'm speculating that there's a possibility that though he's mouthbrooding, the eggs might not be fertilized. Not sure if anyone has experienced. But any idea how long will a rubra mouthbrood? Thanks.
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    Some spawning snap shots.

    1. The pair will twist and curl. This will last less than a minute. (I think it's here where the male will fertilize the eggs.)
    2. Female releases about 3 - 5 eggs.
    3. Male proceeds to pick up the eggs.

    This process is repeated a few times.

    Male will mouthbrood for around 11 days before releasing the fries in batches.
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    Pretty! Where's the fry pics? What do you feed them with? May I suggest using the finnest tubifex worm

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    It seems that the fries can take bbs straight away.
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    1 month old fry
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    Pretty! Are the parents ready for round 2?

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    They breed rather easily. Immediately after releasing the fries, I see him mouthbrooding in the next couple of days. But however, I prevented them from reproducing because the male looks pretty weak and skinny. He needs some conditioning before they reproduce more. Now is their 4th spawn already.
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    Good to condition the male as he don't eat during mouth brooding. Only young bettas breed. Based on the channoides I had before, they will continue to mouth brood for 4-5 rounds almost immediately before they stop completely. That should be the time to declare old. Make the best out of them & after that retirement in planted tank.

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    Lovely series. So it seems that the male picked up the eggs by himself. That's very interesting. In other species the female will take the eggs from the male's anal fin and spit them out for the male to catch (except in mac).
    Now I wonder if this behaviour unique to rubra only or can also be seen in other foerschi group? Anyone got experience with any of foerschi clade members?

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    Here's my promising pair!

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    Good for you. Hope to hear and see more photos from you.
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    Hello,

    Will the juvenile fries say about 3 months old be able to differentiate new born fries from food? I'm quite certain the adult pair will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaZ View Post
    Lovely series. So it seems that the male picked up the eggs by himself. That's very interesting. In other species the female will take the eggs from the male's anal fin and spit them out for the male to catch (except in mac).
    Now I wonder if this behaviour unique to rubra only or can also be seen in other foerschi group? Anyone got experience with any of foerschi clade members?
    i read from somewhere (probably old article) that the other species in foerschi group do the same thing, the male picked up the eggs himself, they are supposed to be the transition from bubble nester to mouth brooder as seen from the mating sequence (that's how bubblenester mate, male will pick up the falling eggs when the female is in trance and deposit them on the bubble nest); whereby in other mouthbrooder, the male will lay down and cup the eggs with his anal fins yet in rubra, the female's anal fin cupped the eggs instead...
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    So to say B.rubra used to be bubble nester? Interesting.

    On the other hand, B.rutilans I thought used to be mouthbrooders but now they're bubble nesters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leeruisheng View Post
    So to say B.rubra used to be bubble nester? Interesting.

    On the other hand, B.rutilans I thought used to be mouthbrooders but now they're bubble nesters.
    this one i dont know.. they are just the transition species la... in the evolutionary pathway i believe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by turaco View Post
    That should be the time to declare old.
    Betta rubra do bear a similiar characteristic as Apistogramma elizabethae. Both are red. No la.
    Both changes the shape of their caudal as they aged. Betta rubra from round to spade. While Apistogramma elizabethae from like forked shaped to spade. So it's possible to roughly determine their age by looking at their caudal.
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    Discovered something today.

    My female is also mouthbrooding. But I'm not sure if she will succeed. In this latest spawn the female reproduced lots of eggs. The male I believed has hold to his limits. The surplus eggs were left on the substrate and I thought maybe the eggs will be left to be devour by yamatos or maybe even the female. But then this morning saw her mouthbrooding.

    Mouthbrooding female


    Quote Originally Posted by leeruisheng View Post
    Hello,

    Will the juvenile fries say about 3 months old be able to differentiate new born fries from food? I'm quite certain the adult pair will.
    I now can answer this question that I've posted and the answer is no.
    Last edited by Quixotic; 19th May 2008 at 17:32. Reason: Merge posts
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    I have split the discussion regarding Betta species for beginners to this thread.

    http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ad.php?t=41485
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    I have one question.Can a smaller male breed with a female which is say 2cm bigger then him.

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    a bit hard... but possible...
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