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    ketapang leaves for all blackwater fish?

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    Hi guys, jus wondering.. i read that arrowana keepers use ketapang leave.. have anyone else tried using them for other fishes? peat is inexperience and ketapang can be found along coastal road...

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    Is it also known as indian almond leaves?

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    Simon !, some FF collect this leaves (in large qty) and soak them in water for a period of time. The water eventually turned very dark brown in colour. The "extract -mainly Humic Acid" is used as "Dark water effect" or "softening agent". I have tried some sample (given by the Fish Farms) on my "L" Catfishes and they seem okay !. They (FF) have used it on some characin species and they also seem okay ! Check it out ! cheers! []

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    thks allen, me thinking of using them for my apisto fry tank

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    and one thing, you can just leave the leaves in the water for a "natural look" .

    nice!
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    Have try for my ST and seems ok for them.

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    hi simon

    ketapang leaves oso used for keeping fighting fish. infact, any leave oso can lah...anyone here tried tea leaves...

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    blackwater

    those of you guys who want to produce natural blackwater for use of wild fish/breeding etc purpose esp apistos, discus, altums, South american wilds etc can look at this.

    I used this for arowana and find that it is quite good

    Ketapang Tea Bags

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    when i dabble in FW eons ago,.. i used to use tetra blackwater extract and another brand which is black color bottle with gold words.. that is good as well..

    btw, LSZ, drift wood do produce some form of coloring in the water right? those 'leaks' good for fishes or not? ani't that considered blackwater???
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    Kel, the reason why i thought this is good is coz this method had been long tested locally. just new package which is a lot better than the leaves...

    i never wanted to use chemicals or artifical stuff for my fish thats why. No matter what brand is it.


    YEah driftwood leech tannin into the water too. But thats for a short period of time and in a much less efficient package! I realise tannin leech from driftwood has only a marginal effect on ph too. Unless you soak a whole tree root into your tank and your water flooding out []

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    ok.. got it.. btw, any tea leaves will do? i drink a lot of tea.. so if u need, just let me know.. i have earl grey, english breakfast, blackcurrent tea.. but i have to drink finish first then the bags i give u.. that is if u need them.. if not, for students like us, we can use it to cure our eyebags.. hahaha..
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    haha

    but logically i think it may be possible ?
    coz tea leaf is just another kind of leaf but fried..

    then your water will smell really nice

    try at your own risk hor

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    ouch!!!.. that hurts..
    i just thought that if the land-dwellers fish nutz here can do with my 'waste' i mean, used tea bags, then give them lor.. coz me dun have any use for it..
    but afraid that the water might turn to other flavours..eg. tea!!! and u created a new species.. Tea fish... hahaha
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    ketapang is just the Sea Almond tree that grows on the roadside here, those with large tear-drop shaped leaves.

    You can just collect freshly fallen leaves, clean and dry them. Then put pieces into tanks to soften the water.

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    thats the point of the tea bags!

    anyone who had used them esp with larger fish will know that the tea leaves will disintegrate and create major problem for filters..

    and not very convenient to "brew" tea now and then

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    if that is the case, i seen those fine mesh laundry bags at $1.99 shops.. costing of course..$1.99.. hehehe.. but dun know whether still have or not.. []
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    dont have to go thru the trouble lah...

    the ready made "tea bags" are cheap

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    unless there is a real brand with arowana logo..

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    Ketapang leaves

    The Toh brothers at YHE LFS gave me some dried Ketapang leaves to put in apisto tanks. I tried it in a bare tank and found the pH drop to as low as 6.2 after a few days. Are we supposed to remove the leaves after about 3 days and not soak them inside for long? The apistos seem to adapt quite all right to the acidic condition though.
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