Sulawesi Shrimps and other fancy Indonesian shrimps

[catohcat]

that shrimp might be a hybrid. It's quite hairy and this is a common signal of hybrid.

[joydiv]

I do not think the first picture is a hybrid. Got 10 of them. Left with around 6 in my tank.
I have seen some variation to the white dots. Some have only 3 white dots. I shold have a picture somewhere.

[EvolutionZ]

is the cardinal aka mantano blue dot ( the red body with white legs one) the easier one to keep/breed? im interested in keeping them with my cherry shrimps.. temp 27 - 28C and pH not a problem.. can use coral chips to raise it to 8.0 - 8.3 since cherry also prefer higher pH wondering is there any problem keeping them together?

[Quixotic]

is the cardinal aka mantano blue dot ( the red body with white legs one) the easier one to keep/breed?

Yes, but as you would have read from most past accounts, even keeping them long term can be challenging. Not too sure about keeping them with cherry shrimps. Good luck.

[EvolutionZ]

thanks quixotic, had a talk with silane, he adviced me not to keep them together as the sulawesi shrimps need very clean water.. now having almost 100 cherry shrimps in my tank i doubt the water will be very very clean..

[dzylim]

I still have the left over of my blue dots from my most recent batch, started with 10 then drop to 5 and now have 7. as the tank is too empty i drop in a sulawesi crab and some empire gudgeon.

amazingly the gudgeons are ignoring the shrimps, even the 2 juveniles are left untouched. now 1 of the female is heavily pregnant again. lets see how it goes this time.

[joydiv]

seemed Like interest in sulawesi shrimps has waned to almost zero.
Here's one i got recently, goes by the trade name nautilus bee.

[Aria]

Nice one there. Thanks for sharing these rare pictures - of such rare shrimps

[joydiv]

This is a very common shrimp in Sulawesi, Caridinia Lancelata.

[joydiv]

Here's another one
Caridinal snowy

[illumbomb]

I am not into sulawesi shrimps but there is this jap website that I visit once in a while to check out the new cryptocorynes they discover and I came across some really nice photographs of the biotope of these sulawesi shrimps which I thought would be of great interest and help to you guys (not sure if these links were shared by others before though):

http://equator.web.fc2.com/indonesia...anaomatano.htm

http://equator.web.fc2.com/indonesia-sulawesi-danao.htm

http://equator.web.fc2.com/indonesia...-danaoposo.htm

[SCOPE]

Great infromation. Thanks for sharing

[illumbomb]

Glad you found it useful. From the photographs, if I ever want to start a sulawesi shrmps only tank, I can picture in my mind now that it will probably be sand base, stones + rocks scape with some clumps of plants planted sparsely.

[mozaqua]

Wow, really cool pics illumbomb!
Gives me ideas for the next Sulawesi setup.

Anyone know how the dissolved oxygen is so high in their natural habitat? All I see are rocks and fairly deep water. Maybe O2 producing bacteria? I would think sponges also consume O2 as well.

Anyway, I had problems keeping the Cardinals alive, until I realized the nitrates had gotten too high. Once I fixed that problem they are doing fine. Just have to keep the aeration pretty high out of the sponge filter. 27-28C is my average tank temp, don't keep them in the chiller, they seem much happier in the warmer temp.
If they start hiding too much, time to change some water. They are much more active when the water is optimum.

I have also noticed these shrimp are very aware of another presence, they will hide if they see someone moving toward the tank! Most dwarf shrimp, either have bad eye sight or just don't care if people look at them. Maybe all of the predators in their natural habitat has made them more cautious than most other shrimp?

[aqualifestyle34]

I am not into sulawesi shrimps but there is this jap website that I visit once in a while to check out the new cryptocorynes they discover and I came across some really nice photographs of the biotope of these sulawesi shrimps which I thought would be of great interest and help to you guys (not sure if these links were shared by others before though):

http://equator.web.fc2.com/indonesia...anaomatano.htm

http://equator.web.fc2.com/indonesia-sulawesi-danao.htm

http://equator.web.fc2.com/indonesia...-danaoposo.htm

yes, I know the author of this website I am in contact with him, he soon returned to his expedition of Myanmar. No, I do not think the interest of sulawesi shrimp has dropped to zero, the evidence I have set up a chatroom to talk about all of our experience.

http://xat.com/sulawesi

[joydiv]

Caridinia ensifera was first described by Schenkel in 1902. It is found in lake Poso on Sulawesi in Indonesia. This is the pdf describing the species - http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/biblio/55/55rbz311-320.pdf

As with most Sulawesi shrimps, it requires alkaline water with a ph of 7.4 and above and well oxygenated clean water. There are two morphs, red and blue.

[Mimbon]

dear Joydiv

The shrimps on your pic is not C.ensifera.It´s a new species,that will be described soon.
(Raffles Bull. in august,together with C.Cardinal,and some others).
The true C.ensifera look different and esp.doesn´t have the blue tips.

Roland

www.mimbon.de

[joydiv]

Hi Roland,

Glad the shrimps are finally being described.

How about this:




These also comes in as C.ensifera

Only difference is they do not show the red hue on the body.

[aqualifestyle34]

Speaking of identification, harlequin shrimp to a new name

I do not understand that scientific studies that could help us move forward and either we pay for information.
I am disappointed by the scientists, they have forgotten that Darwin had a goal to try to discover the people of the world's research.
Governments should be funding research rather than wasting their money.
This behavior, and the door wide open to ignorance.
Sorry, friends, a sudden anger.

http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2009/f/z02045p032f.pdf

Here is the short version free, fortunately we aquarists do not have the same behavior as scientists.

[mozaqua]

Thanks joydiv and aqualifestyle for the PDFs!
Wish I could find something similar with color photos, make a quick ID of the scientific species.
Anyone know where to find the shrimp taxonomy for SE Asia? I have a few species I would like to ID, maybe someone has named them already?