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my experience with excel is that once stopped, bba comes
even with co2 enrichment
but there are so many parameters in a tank that other factors may be the cause
hi guys, would like to ask.
lets say day 1 i set up a 1ft cube tank. i used seachem Excel on a daily basics along with EI dosage of Micro and macro. then after 1 or 2 weeks. i decided to get a splitter and connect the splitter to my co2 tank and now i can have pressurised co2 in my tank. would it cause algae or any sorts of unwanted things if i suddenly switch from excel to pressurised co2(with EI dosage)?
my experience with excel is that once stopped, bba comes
even with co2 enrichment
but there are so many parameters in a tank that other factors may be the cause
hmm... was still deciding if i should get a splitter or just simply got for excel... anyway, thanks bro for adivce =)
I found that it is easier to use excell on small tank (1ft and smaller) rather than using pressurize CO2. My own oppinion
lol. but based on seachem web. if pressurize co2 is 10/10. the seachem is 5 or 6/10. anyway.. found a guy selling ADA replica co2 splitter.. think i go for co2 straight.
thanks =)
Evo,
I agree with you, use pure co2 straight, if you are afraid of a sudden algae outbreak, i've read somewhere on the forums people use excel and pressurised co2 at the same time, not excel as a form of providing co2, but a reagent to managed algae.
Anyway, ive done excel for 4 months already, you just can't beat pressurised/diy co2 when comes to growing plants, its five times the growth rate. My Japan hairgrass is a classic example, though now i have "other" issues....
yea.. i'll be growing mainly jap HG and normal HG. so i guess i'll go for co2 straight.
it's a myth that HG (jap or normal) require CO2 to grow/spread, just in case that's what is affecting your decision. if you're going for such a lightly planted tank (hairgrass only), are you sure that you want to go for such a high tech tank? the low plant mass might be insufficient to outcompete algae given the rich conditions (i'm assuming with CO2 you will be dosing ferts as well) and especially since i find HG gets more nutrients from the soil than the water column due to the small surface area of its leaves
mainly HG but with other plants as well of course =)
illumnae,
I have been growing Jap HG since sep with 0 success. Was using sechem excel at the time, growth was stanted and i've lost around 1 pot till date. (No baby shoots, leaves were turning yellow, some had died.). I've only found out later that its not an easy plant to grow as suggested by most aquarist after comparing several references.
When i added DIY co2 a couple of weeks back did they really start to creep and grow. Its flourishing now with evidence of new shoots sprouting close to the main mass.
Yes, i agree, dosing ferts didn't help much due to the small surface area of the HG back then, and in addition, i only had gex plant and shrimp soil with no base fert when i first started. So the negligent of co2 in my tank was the limiting factor.
http://www.guppies.com/forums/showth...***-16804.html
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ge...hairgrass.html
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...substrate.html
Last edited by torque6; 19th Mar 2008 at 21:30.
hmmm.. i decided to not use co2 anymore.. costly and troublesome to get a splitter.. will try excel first. if there is a need. i'll get a splitter..
Ya, as with all things try first for a few months, if things aren't turning out ideally, upgrade to splitter.
good decision
Encountered exactly the same problem.Originally Posted by lee1224
maybe someone is using Glutaraldehyde in exange of seachem excel?what is your sighting?there is some info : http://amania.110mb.com/Chapters/Tec...html#glutarco2
http://www.barrreport.com/articles/1...ighlight=cidex
http://www.aqa.ru/forum/vt81949
so is seachem excel suitable for hg?
Excel or other liquid CO2 works fine. Your plants will still be healthy and growing but just not at the speeds of gaseous CO2, remember also to cut down fert dosage to prevent a algae outbreak. Many pro aquascapers, most notably, George Farmer of PFK highly recommends the use of liquid CO2 to 'slow' things down.
However, gaseous CO2 will always be cheaper in the long run.
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