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Thread: Why does my Moss turn brown?

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    Yes! I always wanted to have CO2.. but its scary leh.. I heard about it exploding etc. Gosh...

    But I really hope my moss will look green and nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by beetroot View Post
    i heard moss do well in cooler waters. but i don't have a fan or chiller. temperature hanging around 28C.
    Spiky moss, Taiwan moss, Singapore moss and US fissiden are ok in normal water temperature (without chiller). I didn't see any different between those moss in my tank with chiller and with fan only. On the other hand, flame moss and whipping moss does grow differently in cold water (with chiller). Flame moss have more twist and whipping moss does not whip in tank without chiller. but they all grow in tank without chiller.
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    You have 2 problems

    1) Temperatures above 26C are detrimental to most mosses even those from tropical areas
    2) Fluorish excel is toxic to most mosses.

    Both result in burnt out moss.

    regards

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    really...?
    I dose excel too. but I do face major problems. Just that it looks brown and weird

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    Excel has glutaraldehyde in it as active ingredent.
    This kills moss and is also not good some plants like vals, anarchia etc.
    Further if they are kpet under direct high light they get killed.
    High temp > 25 C also hurt them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephan View Post
    You have 2 problems

    1) Temperatures above 26C are detrimental to most mosses even those from tropical areas
    2) Fluorish excel is toxic to most mosses.

    Both result in burnt out moss.

    regards
    Quote Originally Posted by sandeepraghuvanshi View Post
    Excel has glutaraldehyde in it as active ingredent.
    This kills moss and is also not good some plants like vals, anarchia etc.
    Further if they are kpet under direct high light they get killed.
    High temp > 25 C also hurt them.
    Over dose of excel maybe but excel dont really kill moss, i dose excel in my tank but i've never see my moss die.

    High temp >25 dont kill moss also unless is like 30 degree and above , my tank usually hover around 28degree but my moss flourish well. Check my tank under my signature, "The Rising Sun" and you know what i mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephan View Post
    You have 2 problems

    1) Temperatures above 26C are detrimental to most mosses even those from tropical areas
    2) Fluorish excel is toxic to most mosses.

    Both result in burnt out moss.

    regards
    Eer are you sure?

    My tank temp is currently 26C to 27C and I does excel... It kept my moss clear from hair algea and my moss is green and healthy leh....
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    spiky and java are easy to keep as long as you have matured good quality water

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    Wink

    1) Fluorish excel has a different toxicity according to the species of moss you have. With 'normal' dosing tough mosses eg Taxiphyllum species, are not affected at all. However many types of Fissidens, Barbula, Plagiomnium etc are badly affected even at normal concentrations. One extra dose of fluorish excel can easily damage the mosses. I have stopped dosing Fluorish excel when I realised this and mosses like Fissidens nobilis are growing beautifully.
    2) Tough moss can grow at temperatures up to 30C, Java even more. But growth is best for all mosses below 25C. I have done many trials before I can say this. With CO2 you can grow mosses at higher temps than they normally prefer.

    good luck

    Stephan
    Last edited by stephan; 17th Feb 2009 at 05:20.

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    Re: Why does my Moss turn brown?

    I have some experiences with moss and Excel that might help shed some light on things. I used it several times in the past with spiky, Taiwan, Singapore, flame and Fissidens mosses, as well as an unidentified Vesicularia I found in a conservatory, and while I would get a week or so of good growth, all would die off rather suddenly until this regimen. I've tried again recently, but this time I'm adding just 3-4 drops per 10 gallons, and I'm getting good growth without browning. It still makes me nervous, though.
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