Hair algae? try Endlers!

**torque6** · 21st Jan 2009, 22:19

Since I've haven't had success with shrimps of any kind; my last malayan from Seaview went suicidal and flew out of the tank.

So did a search on the web and the usual few pop up :- otto, yamoto, malayan, sae, snails. etc...

Till i came across several articles highlighting Endlers as successful hair algae eaters. I recalled mollies/ platies do eat algae when starved, but these articles proved very interesting.

Check them out.

http://www.endlersr.us/viewtopic.php...ighlight=algae

http://www.mysapientia.com/camera/fi...r/endlers.html

http://www.petfish.net/forum/index.php?topic=58706.0

http://www.geocities.com/endlers_liv...r/feeding.html

http://www.aquaworldaquarium.com/Art...ivebearer.html

**barmby** · 21st Jan 2009, 23:05

Endlers are good. I was at Gan Aquarium three weeks ago. Uncle Tiong shown me the wood gets cleaned before and after.

Btw, I like one of the sentence from the article. funny

Endlers will breed with guppies! to ensure you don't get hybrids please don't have endlers and guppies in the same tank.
I don't have guppies anywhere in the house at all, you would be amazed at how fry can travel!!!!-Sheba

**wllm33** · 22nd Jan 2009, 00:57

Originally Posted by torque6

Since I've haven't had success with shrimps of any kind; my last malayan from Seaview went suicidal and flew out of the tank.

So did a search on the web and the usual few pop up :- otto, yamoto, malayan, sae, snails. etc...

Till i came across several articles highlighting Endlers as successful hair algae eaters. I recalled mollies/ platies do eat algae when starved, but these articles proved very interesting.

Check them out.

http://www.endlersr.us/viewtopic.php...ighlight=algae

http://www.mysapientia.com/camera/fi...r/endlers.html

http://www.petfish.net/forum/index.php?topic=58706.0

http://www.geocities.com/endlers_liv...r/feeding.html

http://www.aquaworldaquarium.com/Art...ivebearer.html

thanks for the useful infomation.
i also have been using snails, shrimps (just bought 50 malayan shrimps), otos, but the blue/green algae still persists and killing off my gujing.

will try endlers if all fails although just added the malayan shrimps as my nereit snails keep on dying and my ramshorns are too slow..
thanks

**flybaits** · 22nd Jan 2009, 01:57

have a 2ft 'service tank' where endlers clear up my algaed plants n dws....

effective and clean job provided you don;t feed them too often..... heheheh

cheers!!!

**Viper007** · 22nd Jan 2009, 10:40

Originally Posted by barmby

Endlers are good. I was at Gan Aquarium three weeks ago. Uncle Tiong shown me the wood gets cleaned before and after.

Btw, I like one of the sentence from the article. funny

Isn't Endler's also another breed of guppy???

Wah like that no need to buy fish food liao for endler's.

**torque6** · 22nd Jan 2009, 10:55

Originally Posted by wllm33

thanks for the useful infomation.
i also have been using snails, shrimps (just bought 50 malayan shrimps), otos, but the blue/green algae still persists and killing off my gujing.

will try endlers if all fails although just added the malayan shrimps as my nereit snails keep on dying and my ramshorns are too slow..
thanks

william, no fauna will eat BGA, its a cynobacteria.

Viper,
Endlers are related to guppy, but its strictly refered to as Poecilia Wingei, wild guppy thus i wouldnt refer them as guppy or aka Poecilia reticulata.

**Viper007** · 22nd Jan 2009, 11:02

Originally Posted by torque6

william, no fauna will eat BGA, its a cynobacteria.

Viper,
Endlers are related to guppy, but its strictly refered to as Poecilia Wingei, wild guppy thus i wouldnt refer them as guppy or aka Poecilia reticulata.

Gee thanks torque for the info.

**craftsman** · 22nd Jan 2009, 11:18

Originally Posted by torque6

Viper,
Endlers are related to guppy, but its strictly refered to as Poecilia Wingei, wild guppy thus i wouldnt refer them as guppy or aka Poecilia reticulata.

Now, if you really want to get serious about the differences between guppies and endlers, look here.

**Shadow** · 22nd Jan 2009, 12:39

Originally Posted by torque6

william, no fauna will eat BGA, its a cynobacteria.

Viper,
Endlers are related to guppy, but its strictly refered to as Poecilia Wingei, wild guppy thus i wouldnt refer them as guppy or aka Poecilia reticulata.

They both will cross breed

**torque6** · 22nd Jan 2009, 14:28

Originally Posted by Shadow

They both will cross breed

ya, so best to keep them isolated. If you want 1-3 pieces in your 1-2ft tank to take care of slight hair algae, keep them as 1male:2female ratio. Just dont mix regular guppies in there, since i' havent been able to find articles or pics such as those i posted effective in clearing most algae.

**wllm33** · 23rd Jan 2009, 00:55

[quote=torque6;428403]william, no fauna will eat BGA, its a cynobacteria.
hi,
thanks for the enlightenment.
so what's the best way to get them off my plants. they are dying like blazes, one by one. I am using my fingers to wipe them off, but not fast enough.
Any suggestions , but not poisonous to my shrimps and otos?
thanks.

**torque6** · 23rd Jan 2009, 08:47

[quote=wllm33;428620]

Originally Posted by torque6

william, no fauna will eat BGA, its a cynobacteria.
hi,
thanks for the enlightenment.
so what's the best way to get them off my plants. they are dying like blazes, one by one. I am using my fingers to wipe them off, but not fast enough.
Any suggestions , but not poisonous to my shrimps and otos?
thanks.

Most shrimps/oto or endlers dont eat BGA, best is to use anti-biotics. You can google BGA and some of my old threads will pop up on AQ.

**Loopy** · 23rd Jan 2009, 10:14

Thanks for this information, I had no clue, as I have an eternal battle with this sort of algae on my fissidens I am happy to try it out.

Peace out.

**torque6** · 23rd Jan 2009, 16:26

Originally Posted by Loopy

Thanks for this information, I had no clue, as I have an eternal battle with this sort of algae on my fissidens I am happy to try it out.

Peace out.

Another option is to try h202, soften it and let the endlers take care of the rest.

**barmby** · 23rd Jan 2009, 17:17

William, no algae is the same. Endler is good with hair algae. BGA is another matter. There are other issues that need to address.

**wllm33** · 24th Jan 2009, 00:49

[quote=torque6;428664]

Originally Posted by wllm33

Most shrimps/oto or endlers dont eat BGA, best is to use anti-biotics. You can google BGA and some of my old threads will pop up on AQ.

thanks for the advice.
i have put in tetracycliine as i do not have erythromycin.
hope my otos, snails, and shrimps will not be affected.
is this bga gram +ve or gram -ve bacteria?

don't know if it is my imagination, but i seem to see a bit less after i put in 50 malayan shrimps and more otos.
(before i added the antibiotic).

**torque6** · 25th Jan 2009, 13:23

Added an endler today into the tank, will update if they "really" cleared the hair algae on my bogwood.

**wllm33** · 27th Jan 2009, 12:05

i don't know if it is the tetracycline or the malayan shrimps which i put in the tank, but the algae seems to be disappearing.
thanks for the advice.
cheers

**Jaffar** · 31st Jan 2009, 23:09

Most of the shops are selling male endlers. Which LFS can I buy the female one's?
The female endlers seem very similar to guppies so need to be careful in selection. Thanks