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    jerome's first Hypancistrus zebra (L046) Tank Setup

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    hi guys, i already setup a 2ft tank for L46, now in cycling process,

    want to ask, anyone try using black crystal quartz gravel for base?
    was given to me by my friend by somehow when i ran my hand through them, they feel quite sharp. the grain size are 1-2mm. my friend told me these are dennerle black quartz. i feel it by be a bit too sharp for L46 though the dennerle web say this are suitable for bottom dweller
    if you need a pic of the quartz, i try post them tomorrow

    like to have some expert opinion about this, whether it is ok to add this as a base.



    thanks

    Jerome
    Last edited by celticfish; 13th Aug 2009 at 15:16. Reason: SMS lingo

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    the normal quartz crystal is indeed sharp, i use dennerle black gravel, which has rounded edge, suitable for bottom dwellers like cory, pleco, loaches, etc.

    alternatively you can use fine river sand.

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    thanks for your input, i decided to buy a pack of ADA - Forest Sand Xingu which is their natural habitat. anyone try using this and any complain on them?

    this is the tank i be using to house them.
    mizu 2feet tank with 2217 for filter
    using the black long stone for air bubble

    got a question is there a need to use sponge to cover the inlet?



    my 5 'coffin' i bought from a bro here



    cheer
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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    It won't be a problem, imo. But, if you have any doubts, don't do it. It's too much of a capital investment to keep something in a substandard environment.

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerome View Post
    thanks for your input, i decided to buy a pack of ADA - Forest Sand Xingu which is their natural habitat. anyone try using this and any complain on them?
    cheer
    Jerome
    that is both nice and suitable sand, but too expensive for me...
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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    thanks for all your inputs, will be heading down to c328 to ask for the sand later

    btw does any of you guys have problem will heater?
    got a 100w heater from rena, i set it to 29C but the temp shown on thermometer always 32C.
    tried putting thermometer in my crs tank and i comfirm the thermometer is working fine.
    lower my heater setting to 28 but stilll the temp stays at 32.
    is there any other things to set for a heater?
    there no calibration button or anything

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    Take the heater out and check the temperature. Are you sure that is not your ambient temperature? Try another thermometer first as most of them are not properly calibrated.

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerome View Post
    thanks for all your inputs, will be heading down to c328 to ask for the sand later

    btw does any of you guys have problem will heater?
    got a 100w heater from rena, i set it to 29C but the temp shown on thermometer always 32C.
    tried putting thermometer in my crs tank and i comfirm the thermometer is working fine.
    lower my heater setting to 28 but stilll the temp stays at 32.
    is there any other things to set for a heater?
    there no calibration button or anything
    I thought heater is to heat not to bring down temp? Use a chiller. But Amazon creatures can cope with 30C and above.
    722 is a dream come true.

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerome View Post
    thanks for all your inputs, will be heading down to c328 to ask for the sand later

    btw does any of you guys have problem will heater?
    got a 100w heater from rena, i set it to 29C but the temp shown on thermometer always 32C.
    tried putting thermometer in my crs tank and i comfirm the thermometer is working fine.
    lower my heater setting to 28 but stilll the temp stays at 32.
    is there any other things to set for a heater?
    there no calibration button or anything
    Erm... your water temperature may already be 32C, higher than your heater... you probably need a chiller if that's really the case?
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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    you should try to set it to 28 degrees, then 27, 26, etc. until it reaches your desired temperature to compensate the discrepancies.

    This is the reason why all my heaters are Jager brand, which can be calibrated easily.
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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    Please forgive my ignorance, what do you mean?, how do you lower water temp with a heater?
    Last edited by celticfish; 15th Aug 2009 at 00:00. Reason: Remove immediate quote

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    i think what bro johannes means is that the heater when set at 28 degrees, is actually 32 degrees.

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luc Tango View Post
    i think what bro johannes means is that the heater when set at 28 degrees, is actually 32 degrees.
    yup, this is what i was trying to say for bro Jerome's case.

    in his case, when he set it at 28, the temp heats up to 32,

    so i was suggesting to him to set to 27, 26 etc until it stops heating, at say, 29 degrees (in which he need to set the heater at 25?).

    this way he as to set it at 25 in order to attain 29 degrees and so on... something like that...
    Last edited by celticfish; 18th Aug 2009 at 17:52. Reason: SMS lingo
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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    thanks for input, i'll do that tomorrow, just came back from c328. both shop don't sell ADA xingu
    so i bought a nameless sand which caught my eyes.they are cheap too
    wash them a few time and be transferring them in tomorrow into the tank with slate cave.
    now left with the job of searching for flat slats
    will try a update photo tomorrow

    cheers

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    biotope has the ADA river sand, not sure it is the 'xingu' one though...

    cant wait to see your set up...
    Last edited by celticfish; 15th Aug 2009 at 00:01. Reason: Remove immediate quote
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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    Yup, Biotope has the Xingu sand. Saw it there few days back.

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    a little update of tank.
    bought a nameless sand, result wasn't as bad as i thought

    will be heading to NA later to find some flat slate for the tank
    somehow the slate cave make the tank look smalll


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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    Actually, SUDO have this fine black quartz gravel. Much finner then those brand-less or ocean free black quartz.
    Here it is. http://www.mizuworld.com/product/detail/1411

    The best gravel is still dennerle imo.
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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    Hi guys, finally my tank is already well cycled.

    went NA, someone snatched up all the flate slate few days before i went
    no choice dun wan waste my trip so got some stone and a extra aquaball filter

    planning to get my L46 from forum bro but i'm totally clueless on the price of them base of their length

    anyone can pm me how the pricing of the L46?

    had a budget around 1k+ intend to keep 3 or 4 of them


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    Last edited by celticfish; 18th Aug 2009 at 17:50. Reason: SMS lingo

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    Re: black crystal quartz for base L46?

    bro, is it necessary to have the heater on? Your incoming L46 will have sauna everyday. . Normal room temperature will do if not you will have a hard time breeding L46. $1.2K can get you 3 pieces of wild L46 with current market rate. Home breed will be slightly cheaper.

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