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    Planted 1st try, Comments please...

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    Beginners Info Sheet
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    Tank Dimensions: 3ft x 1.5ft x 1.5ft ~ 160 litre
    Lighting : (FL) 50W Freshwater, 25W Tropical & 30W Osram daylight
    No. of Hours your light is on : 12 hrs
    CO2 Injection Rate (bps) : about 1 to 2 bubble a sec
    Type of CO2 (DIY/Liquid/Tank) : Tanks
    Method of Injection (e.g. Diffusor/Reactor): Reactor with 3 balls
    Substrate Used : those 2mm grain types...
    How Thick is your base fert : 2 cm mostly at the back
    How thick is your gravel : 1' front slopping to 4' back
    Liquid Fertilizers Used : FE, Mg, K, bought at http://www.nature-aquarium.com
    Frequency of fertilization : Once a week, after 20% water change
    Tank Temperature : 29 ± 1 Degree C
    Type of Filter (overhead/internal/canister) : Canister made in China
    Filter media used : Sponge, BioBall, BioRing
    How long has your tank been set up : few months
    Other equipment : additional small internal filter

    Chemical Properties (Fill what you can)
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    Carbonate Hardness (KH): ~17.9ppm
    Total Hardness (gH): ~107 - 125ppm
    pH : ~6.5 to 7
    NH4 (ppm): no test kit
    NO2 (ppm): no test kit
    NO3 (ppm): no test kit
    PO4 (ppm): no test kit
    Fe (ppm): no test kit

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    11 Rummy Nose
    40+ Cardinal
    15+ Neon
    3 Corys
    4 Oto cats
    2 SAE
    2 Golden Suckers / lemon suker (something like that)
    4 Threadfin Rainbow
    30 Malayan Shrimp
    2 Wood shrimp
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    Describe your problem : Which plants to use to dense up the bottom area?
    Baby Steel!

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    You have around 2.5W/g for your tank. That's good.
    For foreground plants, you can consider:
    - E.tenellus (shd be the easiest)
    - Hair Grass
    - Glosso (but not sure if the lighting sufficient)
    - Elatine triandra

    In no time your plants will grow big and cover the mesh behind. You are trying to grow some moss there? Is it growing?
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    Foreground already using Glosso, it is bubbling slightly. but they are too short... need something to about 2 to 3 inch long as backing to cover the back where the stem plants are rooted.

    Background are Moss With Riccia. But the moss aren't growing out. riccia is over taking and growing well, BUT NOT EVEN. Now chunk are floating off time to time.

    I will remove the background mesh and instead plants long grassy plants like Cockscrew to fill up the back. Riccia and moss will transfer to the foreground tie to pebble...
    Baby Steel!

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    Patience my man....let the things settle down first. Give all the nutrients they need and see them grow. (You need more patience to stay in for the planted tank scene for long which I feel you might be lacking now..hope you don't mind.)

    Your CO2 level might be the factor for poor growth...1 to 2bps seems kinda low for your tank size. Do get a KH test kit to find out the CO2 level by comparing the results with a pH/KH table.
    Plant Physiology by Taiz and Zeiger

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    Hi LIM thanks for your plants and have been growing , I think later parts mine also can give already...

    Nice plants lim , I thinks your glosso not growing well ...

    Just my experience, after I added my light to my tanks and it's started to grow better liao and have been very satisfied with the growing..

    Ok if U want to find cheap glosso go to paris ris framway no.33 and they are selling at $2 only for quite for a bundle , just grab how much u need and speak in teochew got better discount.

    happy growing plants

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    PeterGwee:
    5 months since I started, I feel that my knowledge & creativity is limited thus asking for comments. Drawing experiences and views from the season planters and thereby improving the tank is main objective.

    My Plant growth is alright, giving away extra growth time to time... what I need is the views & comments of the planting arrangements.

    Paitience, if I don't have I would have gone to LouHan after 1 months

    Eddie:
    No need to thank me, Helping each other is always the best!As for the glosso, the pics you saw at the link is the initial part when the glosso were just planted, now with 50W directly over it, the glosso is bubbling slightly.

    Cheap glosso? NO NO NO, planting glosso is back breaking especially I got back injury! every planting session is kind of a torture. I looking for Echinodorus Quadricostatus or other 2 to 3 inch grassy plants. Anyway i will visit paris ris framway no.33 to look see look see!

    Thanks![]
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    Mmmm...you seem to get me wrong limsteel..I ask for more patience for your glosso to grow out and cover the foreground. They are pretty good as foreground plants except that once they start to grow like gangbusters you would need constant pruning to keep them in check. (Glosso are pretty fast growers but I am not sure why it hasn't cover up your foreground...seems like something is limiting which I feel might be carbon...)
    Plant Physiology by Taiz and Zeiger

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    PeterGwee:
    Thanks no harm done

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    limsteel, i think its quite difficult to give comment on your scaping except for suggesting changing plant or location. That, i think is limiting your creativity.

    To have something to start with, maybe its good to look around when u drive or take a bus pass hilly or forested road side, a walk in a park for some inspiration or simply start by recreating someone's work. It sounds cheap copying, but hey, if you are out of idea, that's a good work to practise.
    人的一生﹐ 全靠奮斗﹐ 唯有奮斗﹐ 才能成功

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    true lim , planting glosso Back really suffering....

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    Glosso usually spread fast and thick under good conditions. I started planting sparingly with a few stalks. Now its about 4 cm thick in less than a month and have to pull up some unslightly one that's spread to the rear.

    So in case you still like to try, you don't need to plant many and break bones. It will naturally spread densely. Put your lighting directly above it instead.

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