dkk08 Vivarium Upgrade

[dkk08]

i have 2 units of 4 ft to convert into palu. but o ideas on wht plants to staff as the tanks are only 1.5 ft deep...
headache.. also don't know how m,uch to quote...

where you got your panel from?
world farm?

hmmm plants ah... well there's 2 types either totally submerged aquatic plants or emersed aquatic or terrestrial plants...

Dischidia Spp. (about $8-$12)
Lycopodium Spp. (about $25-$50)
Begonia (To add some color) (about $6-$10)
Boston Fern (Tough Fern) (about $7-9)
Peperomia (about $5-$
Hoya (nice flowering plant) (about $12-$30)

Aquatic plants I'm sure u can name a few like Crypts, mosses etc...

and yes the panels are from World Farm

[David Moses Heng]

i have no issue with aquatic plants. it is the land plants that's freaking me out.... What other supplies do they have at world farm?

[dkk08]

i have no issue with aquatic plants. it is the land plants that's freaking me out.... What other supplies do they have at world farm?

they have stones, rocks, soil (quite a few types ranging from mud to volcanic soil to organic soil), fern panels (selling fast), bamboos for deco, lots and lots of plants, lots of pots and planter boxes... almost standard items for a big nursery... but I would say their prices are very competitive and if you go look for a guy with specs name "Ah Guan" say friend recommend one sure will give some discounts

[limz_777]

Bro Limz, I found the foam spray at the hardware shop along Toh Tuck, erm next to the Singapore Pools outlet

thanks , just bought at a hardware shop at jalan besar ,was wondering in your set-up , whats the wire dangling there at the right side ?

and your Humidifier is on timer ?

[dkk08]

oh the 2 wires? 1 is for tempature and 1 is for humidity

yes, the humidifier is on timer

[limz_777]

oh the 2 wires? 1 is for tempature and 1 is for humidity

yes, the humidifier is on timer

i see , what brand is the temperature/humidity meter ?

[dkk08]

i see , what brand is the temperature/humidity meter ?

I got them from USA ordered online from LLL reptile supplies

[eddy planer]

thanks , just bought at a hardware shop at jalan besar ,[/B]

Hi Bro Limz

Mind ask you ?, what's foam spray brand? I knew there few hardware shops in Jalan Besar selling a kinda of green foam spray...which isn't as good as the German foam spray (white cream).

[eddy planer]

Hi Shaihulud,

As for the expanding foam, trust me when I say I know how you feel as I felt the same way before. That's why this current background is actually about a year or more old as I experimented with the foam spray but was too chicken to use it for my terrarium... luckily I kept it thinking that one day I'll use it and here we're...

I've heard some good and bad experiences from folks using the foam spray... some say that the foam expand so much it cracks their tank, some say the background will fall off after few months as they do not stick, whereas some swear by the foam spray and has no above mentioned problems... so I guess there's a certain percentage of luck involved

For me I choose to silicon the already hardened background onto the tank... I do not have a brand to recommend as the foam spray is not readily available and can be quite difficult to hunt down...

To avoid the problem, foam that expand that crack the tank or background does not stick is to get the good German foam spray and try to use skeleton (using eggcrate)of the background to foam it.

I'll check the brand of the foam spray for you, and it's cost me SGD13.50 a can. I used nearly 12 cans to create my support base and background.

I know the green foam spray which is longer, bigger and cheaper than the German foam spray by half but my experience with this wasnt a good result after 2 weeks tried out for waterproofing and gave out some chemical smell which i find it toxin to my fauna.

[eddy planer]

k let me try again

This is maddening awesome palu, bro!

I still got 2x2x2 tank, actually i wanted to give away....but now I'm taking back to create Indiana Jones background! This time, i'll be creating vivariuam with waterfall with minimum water, no more palu for me.

[eddy planer]

i have 2 units of 4 ft to convert into palu. but o ideas on wht plants to staff as the tanks are only 1.5 ft deep...
headache.. also don't know how m,uch to quote...

where you got your panel from?
world farm?

I dont recommend tree fern panel for palu as its leeches the water and you'll have a dark brown tea-like coloured water. No matter, how you change the water many times or wash the tree fern panels, you'll still get a dark brown tea coloured water unless you use for vivarium, that's ok.

If not, try corkbark .

[dkk08]

To avoid the problem, foam that expand that crack the tank or background does not stick is to get the good German foam spray and try to use skeleton (using eggcrate)of the background to foam it.

I'll check the brand of the foam spray for you, and it's cost me SGD13.50 a can. I used nearly 12 cans to create my support base and background.

I know the green foam spray which is longer, bigger and cheaper than the German foam spray by half but my experience with this wasnt a good result after 2 weeks tried out for waterproofing and gave out some chemical smell which i find it toxin to my fauna.

I've always use the green foam spray think the brand is BOUW SCHUIM (Dutch Brand) its greenish, I got the big ones for $17 small ones at $10...

Don't mind using the German brand white foam spray, you check and let us know the brand and where to get them. Thanks!

[dkk08]

This is maddening awesome palu, bro!

I still got 2x2x2 tank, actually i wanted to give away....but now I'm taking back to create Indiana Jones background! This time, i'll be creating vivariuam with waterfall with minimum water, no more palu for me.

Yo Eddy, thanks for the compliments but I think I still have lots to improve on and to learn, so let us all learn together

Don't give away the 2ft cube tank! It will make a good centre piece... think of a volcano or mountain as the centre piece in the tank and u can create a 360 view for it... it'll look damn cool!

I've already upgraded the other 2.5ft cube tank next to this one... its a minimal upgrade spent less then $50... will try and upload the pics soon

[limz_777]

Hi Bro Limz

Mind ask you ?, what's foam spray brand? I knew there few hardware shops in Jalan Besar selling a kinda of green foam spray...which isn't as good as the German foam spray (white cream).

i bought foam spray brand is bouw schuim , have not really use it yet , i presume it to be green too since its the same brand as ddk , what brand are you using ?


I got them from USA ordered online from LLL reptile supplies

i see, never see digital humidility meter for sale around the LFS

[eddy planer]

i bought foam spray brand is bouw schuim , have not really use it yet , i presume it to be green too since its the same brand as ddk , what brand are you using ?


I got them from USA ordered online from LLL reptile supplies

i see, never see digital humidility meter for sale around the LFS

Hi Limz

The brand is Bostik Expanda Foam. You can check VRAtenza's Paludarium (Newbie attempt) thread to take a look at the pic of the Bostik Expanda Foam.

As for digital humidility/ temp meter , you can source in Sim Lim tower at the basement which sold for SGD 30-40. Why need to order and pay for the courier charges of SGD50 all the way from USA?

Hope this will help you , bro

[dkk08]

Hi Limz

The brand is Bostik Expanda Foam. You can check VRAtenza's Paludarium (Newbie attempt) thread to take a look at the pic of the Bostik Expanda Foam.

As for digital humidility/ temp meter , you can source in Sim Lim tower at the basement which sold for SGD 30-40. Why need to order and pay for the courier charges of SGD50 all the way from USA?

Hope this will help you , bro

yap that's true coz I ordered alot of other stuff from them too e.g. vitamins, supplements, decos...

[dkk08]

Finally managed to get some pics of the other 2.5ft cube tank upgrades...

I'm still using the Fern Panel as I bought extras, lots of extras, and there's a Big Leaf Orchid which was attached to a fern panel at the left back of the tank... see if you can spot it


this is how the "Waterfall" looks like... I know its a bit "Raw" as there's no cover up...

[dkk08]

added some java moss, spiky moss, xmas moss and pelia to the DW so that they won't look so bare


and this is after adding 2 more fern panels to the sides and adding more plants... Tillandsias and some nepenthes cuttings! Courtesy of 2 bros from a plant forum, Thanks Greenhorn and Lam WN!

[dkk08]

And Ah Pui saying thank you everyone for watching this space

[David Moses Heng]

Can past me some of those fern bark? Lazy to go world farm lah...