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    Macropodus ocellatus keeper

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    Hello,
    i'm from germany and keep M.ocellatus.
    I hope to get in contact to people from china knowing this fish, it's habitats etc. to do information exchange.

    Tschüss
    Erich Willems

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    I'm keeping and breeding them too, I'm not from China, but from Holland, will lift on your topic if you don't mind.

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Well, not as near by the origin of these fishes as i thought, but yes
    i'm interested in any experience exchange .
    So hello and "Frohe Ostern" or how to say in Holländisch?

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    "Frohe Ostern" is 'fijn paasfeest'

    I have a topic http://www.venividivissie.org/viewto...4952&start=360 with some pictures of the Paradise fish.
    Some German reading, not just Macropudus.
    http://www.igl-home.de/09/mak/MakEn%202_09.pdf

    Will be visiting family these days so reply's make take a while..

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    So fijn paasfeest,

    and i've also some reading, mostly on M.ocellatus and pictures too:
    http://erabo.de/aqua/

    Tschüss
    Erich

    PS: edited the link above to point to the entry page as i detected within the log some tries to visitit the macropodus/ocellatus subpage answered with page not found but the link is correct and works.
    So i reduced the link as above. Everyone can find the ocellatus entry starting at the entry page.
    Last edited by erich willems; 5th Apr 2010 at 05:24.

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hello,

    I'm from France and I'm desperatly looking for some m.Ocellatus. Here, they are extremly rare and preciously kept by those who own them.
    When i saw the thread, i immediatly registred to ask both of you if there is in any way a possibility for you to send me some specimens so i can maintain and spread the specie here. The conditions are up to you to determine knowing that i'm okay in anyway.

    Thanks and sorry for my english!

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hello,
    I totally agree with lounis.
    I am also from France, and looking for some Macropodus Ocellatus. At the moment, I have one individual in a large outdoor aquarium (about 280 liters).
    It spent the winter outside without damage.

    I would like to find a way to create a breeding in order to distribute young specimens to fans eager to save the species in Europe.
    Of course, I am looking for 'pure' individuals, close to the wild variety, and without distortion.

    OK for exchanging about our experiences and about informations concerning this beauty...
    Thanks in advance

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    erich,
    if you want serious informations about the macropodus ocellatus, may be you could find them here : http://www.cil-ibsc.fr/spip.php?article143
    Unfortunately, it is writen in french, i don't know if you can translate it. The author, Michel Dantec is a famous specialist about the macropode species.
    I i can help you, let me know!

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hello BREIZH78,

    Quote Originally Posted by BREIZH78 View Post
    erich,
    if you want serious informations about the macropodus ocellatus
    Yes I'm interested in serious informations about this species.
    But not basics, I Think to present on my side already serious information beyond the basics.
    As i wrote in my startpost of this thread I'm interested in first hand habitat-infos.
    How to keep the fish in europe I allready know and do. I try to get as much info collected on my side as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by BREIZH78 View Post
    , may be you could find them here : http://www.cil-ibsc.fr/spip.php?article143
    Thanks for the link. It's the french version of the IGL, right?
    I looked into but found only a "Mini Portrait" about the M.ocellatus species.
    Sadly nothing else.
    But there is a mistake in this portrait in my view:
    It states the Temperature range as 10°C - 25°C.
    More correct would be: 4°C (and possibly lower) - 25°C (and possibly higher).

    Quote Originally Posted by BREIZH78 View Post
    Unfortunately, it is writen in french, i don't know if you can translate it.
    No problem, google translates and I can read the german IGL as well .

    Quote Originally Posted by BREIZH78 View Post
    The author, Michel Dantec is a famous specialist about the macropode species.
    Maybe he can correct the Mini portrait .

    By the way,
    I keep actually several lineages of Macropodus ocellatus in ponds whole year round, unfeeded, they live completely standing on their own.
    Look here: http://erabo.de/aqua/?q=Bestand
    There should live actually approximately something about 100 individuals within the ponds.
    I try to keep them as self-reproducing populations under as natural conditions as possible in garden-ponds so also no selections to human centric reverences.

    Also my side is in german, possibly you may find with the help of google-translate some useful information on it?!
    You will find the water temperature conditions they find in the ponds and much more.

    So what i still am looking for is habitat descriptions to collect and add to my side.
    Also I'm always interested in interesting observations about this species.
    If you can help me in these it would be fine ...

    So nice evening
    Erich

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hello, Erich,
    you are right about the temperatures, and about the IGL. I am a member of the IGL-IBSC association. I will send to Michel Dantec a mail about the mini-portrait. Do you know him or the association ?
    I am going to gather more informations for you coming from my own research. The first ones are there, but I have found them on the web, as you can do... I suppose you know these pages ?

    http://www.aquariophil.org/html/shandong_2007-ii.html

    http://home.planet.nl/%7Eklung002/in...en/Page498.htm

    I'll send them to you later, but i am afraid you already know them : I am a beginner !
    I understand that you have several indiviuals. Are you a professional ? Do you sell them ?

    Waiting for more information that I could find, I am pleased to show you my little "pound" in my litte garden... far from your size of pound !
    P1070402.jpg

    thanks, good night, and sorry for my bad english!
    Catherine
    Last edited by BREIZH78; 10th Oct 2011 at 05:18.

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hello Catherine,

    you like to joke with "sorry for my bad english", am I right?
    If you read my pidgin english and still apologise for you english, than what shall i say . I can only say sorry² for my pidgin .

    You are not native english as well as I'm not, so we should understand one another very fine without any necesserity for sorries ...


    Quote Originally Posted by BREIZH78 View Post
    I am a member of the IGL-IBSC association. ... Michel Dantec .... Do you know him or the association ?
    No, i dont know Michel Dantec
    Yes i know the association
    but only from its (german) forum not as a member.

    Quote Originally Posted by BREIZH78 View Post
    I am going to gather more informations for you coming from my own research.
    That's nice, thanks in advance...

    Indeed, i know them.
    The collection place description of aquariophil/shangdong already is referenced on my side.
    Also with http://home.planet.nl i already had mail-contact.

    Quote Originally Posted by BREIZH78 View Post
    Are you a professional ? Do you sell them ?
    No i'm just a hobbyist, but yes at autumn normaly i also sell some of the fry.
    Normaly because i do not try to get as much fry as possible. Instead i try to get fry as natural as possible which also means the availability of fry at end of year depends from the population in the pond, the weather, the other animals residing in the ponds like frogs and so on. So this year was a bad year in the measure context of "lot of fry", so this year i can not sell away. Also i never sell adults only very jung juvenils around 15mm SL.

    Nice pond ...
    with respect to M.ocellatus every pond is better than no pond .

    By the way, are you from the Garches-region?

    Nice evening
    Erich

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hello, Erich,

    Quote Originally Posted by erich willems View Post
    you like to joke with "sorry for my bad english", am I right?
    No, It was not a joke. As I am improving my english since one year for my job, I am not sure to be understood when I try to explain something. I learnt English when I was young, but I never used my knowledger after the end of my scooling... So, thank you for your comments.

    Quote Originally Posted by erich willems View Post
    That's nice, thanks in advance...
    Not so much enthusiasm! after reading your subjects, I am sure you have much more information than me!
    However it may be interesting to share with scientists and experts working for the preservation of wildlife: http://www.arcat.ch/arcat_comite.html
    As they are looking for people sponsoring the species, it seems that you could be a candidate.

    Quote Originally Posted by erich willems View Post
    Nice pond ..
    Thank you. Not only my fisches, but also the birds seems to like it... and my neighbors also appreciate !

    Quote Originally Posted by erich willems View Post
    are you from the Garches-region?
    Garches is a town very close from Versailles, where I live. Do you know the region?

    Best regards, and good evening
    Catherine

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hey guys! Do you all have any pictures on the Macropodus Ocellatus that you keep? I'm quite keen to find out more on this fish. I'm more a fan of Bettas but these two types of fishes are quite closely related so would like to do more research on the Macropodus lines. Looking forward to learn more from you all.

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Good evening Catherine,

    Quote Originally Posted by BREIZH78 View Post
    No, It was not a joke.
    ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BREIZH78 View Post
    However it may be interesting to share with scientists and experts working for the preservation of wildlife: http://www.arcat.ch/arcat_comite.html
    As they are looking for people sponsoring the species, it seems that you could be a candidate.
    You are refering to the GMPFS on that side? Right?
    I tried to read about with the help of googles translate and it seems to me they try to do what i also try with my M.ocellatus: Preserve a heterogen as possible genpool the wild as near as possible.
    Yes you are right, this could interest me but sadly it's a French languge thing as i understood. I did not exactly understood (google-translated) what they wrote about their rules and sponsering function especially but as said the tendency seems to be just that what i try to do with my M.ocellatus: Building with my side an information center to transfer infos about the species and to get step by step together/nearer keepers of the species. But my side is in german language while the GMPFS seems to be french languange specific...
    But yes, if they which to exchange M.ocellatus with me ...
    and yes my intention is to longterm keep my pond-populations ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BREIZH78 View Post
    Not only my fisches, but also the birds seems to like it... and my neighbors also appreciate !
    and in my case also the frogs and the like


    Garches:
    No i dont know the specific region.
    I just saw that your ip-adress is served by a provider from Garches .

    Good evening
    Erich


    Ps:
    @ royss78
    Pictures are on my side ...

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hello erich,

    My name is Alvin, i'm from Indonesia, i have been rearing and breeding Macropodus ocellatus for 3 years, there's much information about the fish, tell what do you want to know, i have a lot pictures that i can share with you.

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hello Alvin,

    oh.. what i want to know ...
    so just all you can tell me
    Shall we share it via this forum thread or by email ... how do you like ?

    Some starting questions:
    Your location seems to be taiwan:
    Are M.ocellatus found in Taiwan?
    Do you know where the most south location is where M.ocellatus lives?
    Do you know the collection places of you M.ocellatus?
    Can you show me pictures of your M.ocellatus?
    How long did your M.ocellatus live?
    Hwo do you keep them ...

    "have been" tells me actual you dont keep them anymore?

    Nice evening
    Erich

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Quote Originally Posted by erich willems View Post
    Shall we share it via this forum thread or by email ... how do you like ?
    This thread please, I'm still listening too

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Dear Erich,

    I think we can share in forum, share to other people too, Macropodus ocellatus belongs to one of indigenous freshwater species in Taiwan. Unfortunately due to my experience I only know that this species distribution in Taiwan, China, Japan and Hongkong. I collected my Macropodus ocellatus from the rice field and some river in the northern part of Taiwan call Rui fang, some of them i bought it from the aquarium store, and some of them from the Macropodus breeding center here. This species is very common here, lots of them and the price is very cheap around $20 NT dollars/each for 4cm big.
    This is my Macropodus ocellatus pictures :

    /Users/apple/Desktop/Macropodus ocellatus/DSC_0001.jpg
    /Users/apple/Desktop/Macropodus ocellatus/DSC_0002.jpg
    /Users/apple/Desktop/Macropodus ocellatus/DSC_0003.jpg
    /Users/apple/Desktop/Macropodus ocellatus/DSC_0014.jpg
    /Users/apple/Desktop/Macropodus ocellatus/DSC_0019.jpg

    They have been in my aquarium for 3 years actually, i keep them in a aquarium for breeding only, after that i'll raise them in a big tank and fill them with water plant. I have hundreds of them in my tank, because i learning to breed another species right now so i dont breed them anymore.

    Have a nice day
    Alvin

    P.S. :I also have the breeding photos from my friend and all the information how to breed them artificially, but i have to find the photos first, i forget where i put them.
    Last edited by Hectorapin; 14th Oct 2011 at 14:18. Reason: My photos wont show up

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hello Alvin,
    how to access your pictures?
    Cant see them, only the path text i see....

    Nice day
    Erich

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    Re: Macropodus ocellatus keeper

    Hi Alvin,

    Upload the images to an image sharing website like Photobucket and copy the direct link. See the Insert Image button when you mouse over the icons as you post? Paste your direct link from the photo sharing site and the forum will do the rest. You can use Preview in Go Advanced to see your post before you confirm it.
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