What is Tiger Lotus???

**eric_kclee** · 19th Jun 2003, 22:46

Hi, there are so many people out there not sure about which is tiger lotus among the many kinds of lotus, and many people tell me different things, untill I got confused. Can some master help please?

I just went to one aquarium, they told me.....

1. The green one with long stem and some speckle of red is call Green lotus

2. The red one with long stem is call red lotus

3. The green one with long stem and a few tone of light and dark green is four colour lotus.

4. The dark red one with short stem and more rounder leave, with spots of much darker red on the leaves is called tiger lotus

Can some SeaFu verify the 4 types above? true?

Does any one has the type 4 to offer?
free or $ also welcome.

**Simon** · 20th Jun 2003, 00:07

Nymphaea spec. Ceylon - Ceylon Lotus
Very thin and delicate leaves of variable colour from light green to golden-bronze.

Nymphaea spec. Madagaskar - Madagarcar Water Lily
the leaves are of a bright green colour on top.

Nymphaea rubra - Red Water Lily
The young, sprouting leaves are triangular with acute tips. Older leaves circular, green to dark red.

Nymphaea stellata - Red and Blue Water Lily
Tuber with arrow-shaped leaves of brown-red to dark-red colour

Nymphaea lotus var. rubra - Red Tiger Lotus
The leaves are rounded with a deep indentation at the base; colour red to reddish-brown with dark brown spots and lighter coloured

Nymphaea lotus var. viridis
Bright green, rounded leaves with reddish-brown spots. Height: Up to the water surface

Nymphaea spec. SWAZILAND - Freckled Tiger Lotus
Large, transparent, arrow-shaped leaves, reddish-brown with small spots.

All info. is taken from Dennerle website

**David** · 20th Jun 2003, 00:26

actually the one I am really interested is the speckled one in Gans tank....Simon any idea what species?....I have searched quite afew publications but it seems that its an unidentified species?

**hwchoy** · 20th Jun 2003, 02:37

the best part is that none of these are actually lotus! they are all waterlilies [:0]

**wahboy** · 20th Jun 2003, 11:56

the best part is that none of these are actually lotus! they are all waterlilies [:0]

Hiya Choy, why must you always make me laugh like that..... at first was the tail bone and tail &quot;joke&quot;, now you catch someone who is trying to explain things clearly. now we know who the real Seafu is!

lotus belongs to the nelumbo family. The ones we have belong to the nymphae family.

Wayne Wah

**wahboy** · 20th Jun 2003, 11:59

hello David,

petmart is selling the red speckled variety you are looking for. $10 per tuber. just saw a new batch yesterday 19th June. Teo calls it the Queen of Siam. there is also a green variety.

hope this helps.

**bingyan** · 20th Jun 2003, 12:54

I think I bought the one David is talking about. $10 for 4 leaves.

now got 6 leaves already.

it's sort of brown leaves with maroon speckles right?

**apollo** · 20th Jun 2003, 16:29

Hi

Now i am really confused. How to tell if its a lily or lotus?

From the pictures, to me the lily got longer stem.

Pls enlighten. Thanks.

**eric_kclee** · 20th Jun 2003, 17:07

Me confused too,

The one I am interested is,
Maroon leaf, with even darker brown-red speckles. Stout, leave close to floor, short stem, more rounded leave. Din't see this in the picture. Wonder what species is that, will check out petmart today.

thanks, slightly better but not absolutely clear!

**hwchoy** · 20th Jun 2003, 17:09

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On 6/20/2003 4:29:50 PM

Hi

Now i am really confused. How to tell if its a lily or lotus?

From the pictures, to me the lily got longer stem.

Pls enlighten. Thanks.

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nein! nein!

Waterlilies have leaves that float on the surface, while lotus has leaf stalks that hold the leaves out of the water. Most waterlily leaves have a slit (i.e. not a complete disc or bowl, although I can think of those huge Amazonian ones that look like a small sampan that doesn't have a slit) while the lotus forms a bowl-shape. The flowers are quite different. Lotus is the plant from which you get the root for soup, leaves for wrapping rice, flowers for offering to deity. In Mandarin it is called the hé-hua, although unfortunately we call the root lían-ou (should really be hé-ou). lían-hua refers to waterlilies.

**bingyan** · 20th Jun 2003, 17:13

nein! nein!

Waterlilies have leaves that float on the surface, while lotus has leaf stalks that hold the leaves out of the water. Most waterlily leaves have a slit (i.e. not a complete disc or bowl, although I can think of those huge Amazonian ones that look like a small sampan that doesn't have a slit) while the lotus forms a bowl-shape. The flowers are quite different. Lotus is the plant from which you get the root for soup, leaves for wrapping rice, flowers for offering to deity. In Mandarin it is called the hé-hua, although unfortunately we call the root lían-ou (should really be hé-ou). lían-hua refers to waterlilies.

I think it's just the opposite

lian hua = lotus flower
lian ou = lotus root

her hua = river flower (lily possible)
her yei = river leaves - used for cooking her yei fun

**hwchoy** · 20th Jun 2003, 23:12

bing yan, better go and brush up your mandarin, this he is not that &quot;her&quot;. go and ask the flower seller outside chinese temple what the flower is called, and ask them to write the word too.

**David** · 21st Jun 2003, 00:18

Hi Wahboy

thanks for the info but nope..its not the Queen of Siam (aka 4 color lotus)...if you are ever at gans again...look at his display tank that is placed outside.....in one of the tanks, there is one with 4 lotus lined up and the one on the extreme left is the one I am referring to.....

**vinz** · 21st Jun 2003, 01:27

Errr... wait. I thought what we call 4-colour lotus is Nymphae micrantha &quot;spotted&quot;.

**vinz** · 21st Jun 2003, 01:29

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On 6/20/2003 5:07:55 PM

Me confused too,

The one I am interested is,
Maroon leaf, with even darker brown-red speckles. Stout, leave close to floor, short stem, more rounded leave. Din't see this in the picture. Wonder what species is that, will check out petmart today.

thanks, slightly better but not absolutely clear!
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Eric, this should be the red tiger lotus. The height of the plant varies depending on the tank environment.

**aquaman** · 21st Jun 2003, 02:13

hi,

the red tiger lotus is very nice!
anyone know which lfs selling it other fish farm?

tks

**bingyan** · 21st Jun 2003, 08:45

nein! nein!

Waterlilies have leaves that float on the surface, while lotus has leaf stalks that hold the leaves out of the water. Most waterlily leaves have a slit (i.e. not a complete disc or bowl, although I can think of those huge Amazonian ones that look like a small sampan that doesn't have a slit) while the lotus forms a bowl-shape. The flowers are quite different. Lotus is the plant from which you get the root for soup, leaves for wrapping rice, flowers for offering to deity. In Mandarin it is called the hé-hua, although unfortunately we call the root lían-ou (should really be hé-ou). lían-hua refers to waterlilies.

I think it's just the opposite

lian hua = lotus flower
lian ou = lotus root

her hua = river flower (lily possible)
her yei = river leaves - used for cooking her yei fun

bing yan, better go and brush up your mandarin, this he is not that &quot;her&quot;. go and ask the flower seller outside chinese temple what the flower is called, and ask them to write the word too.

which aspect of my Mandarin are u refering to?

If u are saying He and Her, I can accept it as my Pinyin is just direct translation from English.

but if u are saying the flower of a lotus plant (lian hua) is call (He hua) I maintain that I am right.

If yr Mandarin is that good, u will understand that He Hua means river flower, meaning any flower growing in the river. Lilies and Lotus are just one of them.

I think it's rather unfriendly to ask ppl to go &quot;brush up his Mandarin&quot; just because his ideas dun agree with yours.