Echinodorus Tenellus??

[chua]

To those who has this plant.
May i know what is the height for this plant?
It stated 3inch in this website but i found a shop that grows to slightly more than 4inch. The light he is using is also very strong hence it is not due to the lack of lighting.
What is the colour of this plant?
light green, green or dark green.
Is there any other foreground that anyone can recommend me?
By the way, me have good lighting, CO2 and nutrient. Hence should have no problem with most type of plants.
Thks

[David]

For the Echinodorus Tenellus if the plant is green, means that it is just getting enough light intensity to grow and when intensity is just enough to grow the leaf blade becomes long.

Did you know the kind of light bulb, total wattage, tank height, and water volume?....if the light as you suggested is very strong, the leaf blade tends to turn reddish.

Plants that can be used as foreground are:

Echinodorus Latifolius (aka Goo Chow)
Echinodorus Spec 205 (aka narrow leaf of the above)
Eleocharis Parvulus (aka Dwarf Hairgrass)
Eleocharis Acicularis (aka Long Hairgrass)
Glossostigma Elatinoides
Riccia Fluitans
Vesicularia Dubyana (aka Java Moss)
APP (Ah Pek Plant.....aka dont know what the scientific name)

[theodore]

APP = Elatine triandra?

[David]

Gosh.....I hope you are not asking me[] ...coz I dont really know....to me its a aquatic plant...whahahhahaaa

[chua]

turn reddish. That is interesting.

[vinz]

David,

Until now stil don't know ah?

APP a.k.a. Elatine triandra.

Other foreground plants:
- Sagittarius subulata
- Echinodorus quadricostatus (for big tanks, or mid ground for small tanks)

[joe]

Hi David,

Any ideas how to distinguish between Eleocharis Parvulus (aka Dwarf Hairgrass) and Eleocharis Acicularis (aka Long Hairgrass)???

I got a small batch from dunno where and the leaves has grown to be quite long (around 5-6cm). They are somewhat reddish in colour.

[chua]

Me are confused with so many types to choose from.
Can cut down a bit.
Me one one that is average in difficulty and fast in spreading. Me is pretty impatient.
Can E.tenullus do the job?
If not what others can meet the conditions.
(exclude Glossos, riccia, hairgrass and moss)
Thks

[Simon]

Chua, just a word of advise.. you need patience for this hobby, don't expect a immediate result, nice tanks are grown over time

[theodore]

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On 6/22/2003 11:13:07 PM

Me are confused with so many types to choose from.
Can cut down a bit.
Me one one that is average in difficulty and fast in spreading. Me is pretty impatient.
Can E.tenullus do the job?
If not what others can meet the conditions.
(exclude Glossos, riccia, hairgrass and moss)
Thks
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E. tenellus will definitely spread fast but consider this : If it gives you the carpet you want in 1 month, that will also mean that you will need to spend time to trim them every month (or worst, every week) to maintain that look )

That's why I'm trying C. parva after moving from riccia to dwarf sags. Heard that it takes a few months to grow well and much longer to get a carpet ... my kind of plant )

[chua]

ooh.
Me only thought of getting the foreground fast and forgot about the maintaining part. Thks for the advise. so how does C.parva looks like?

[David]

Vinz...thanks alot....but I dont really like the APP....too troublesome for my liking

Chua...when there is strong light intensity, it turns reddish..but on this point, a word of caution...the plant becomes micro nutrient hungry and you need to have a good balance. If not they quickly become stunted and dies quite fast.

Joe...if your hair grass blade is around 6cm in length, I am pretty sure that you have the long variation.

[theodore]

Read this : AQ Thread on C. parva

Be sure to check out freemann's tank (look for his posting on the above thread) if you wish to see how the carpet will look like.

[chua]

Thks for the warning.
So what are those that are of average difficulty?
exclude glosso, moss, riccia and hairgrass.

[vinz]

The Echinodoruses and Sagittaria mentioned above are fairly easy and fast growers. You will need to thin them out at least once a month but its not a difficult or time-consuming process once you get the hang of it, especially if the tank is small.

Crytocoryne willisi and parva are easy but very slow. You have to buy enough to cover the area you want to plant and it'll take months to give you a nice carpet. Hardly ever have to maintain except to snip off damaged leaves. Not sure if they are prone to cryptocoryne rot (<- can someone answer this one?). If so the whole carpet can melt away in a matter of days.

[chua]

Thks, that is helpful.
What about Blyra japonica?
and what is the name for the larger version of this type of plant?
Can u help me again.

[Simon]

that would be Blyxa aubertii

Chua, not trying to offend you, But I think you could help everyone here and do a little search on the Net, I'm sure you can find what you looking for (plant names etc) we try not to spoon feed beginners and urge everyone to help ease the replying load of mods/admins in regards to repeated questions, which can be found in the forum.

No offense (not mean to point the finger at you[], just a general suggestion to all members )

[chua]

Me don't know that there are such rule.
I thought the purpose of this forum is to help beginner to get the necessary information in the most convenient way. It is something like a dicussion kind of thing whereby anybody can pop in to drop their views or questions.
Can try searching on the web, but someimes it may not be accurate. Hence will be better to get the views of the local.
Me will do some research first next time.
Sorry to take up your time.

[Simon]

Chua, it will be good if you do alittle research yourself, because the mods/admins face the same questions many times. True, the purpose of this forum is to help everyone not just beginners, but in order for us to help everyone, we need everyone's understanding that some topics has been discussed many times. So we always advise members to search thru the threads first then ask the question and of coz, with details of the problem

[budak]

hi chua,
i think wat simon is saying is that many questions by newbies have been answered in great detail both on this site (if you go to the search page and type in the keyword) and on the net: things like how a particular plant looks like and its general requirements, for example.

thing is, sometimes the regulars keep on seeing the same question coming in everyday also sian, cos you need to spend time and bandwidth to repeat the answer.

Imagine if everyday got 10+ people come and ask question like "what do i need to set up planted tank", "please tell me all about filters/lighting/fertilisation". Questions like these need a whole book to cover properly. So not many people will have time to answer fully. So if you can do some reading up on the past thread's information, you will be able to learn something new and after that post a query to find out if the earlier answer applies to your own setup or plans.

What i advice is try searching the forum and going thru the old threads first for threads which already cover your questions. Then if they still do not cover your individual situation or you wan to clarify some point, do post your question.