Ordering Plants from zoologica

[loupgarou]

ok: my friend in germany has made contact with zoologica.

as a favor, I'll be taking orders.

Rules:
a) cash up front, you can pump it into my posb account (pm me for number).
b) no guarantees in what condition plants come back. (let's hope there's no frost damage etc..in anycase, they import plants from singapore every week so I guess they SHOULD know what they are doing).
c) size is no guarantee either, since you order from Oriental, you might even get ("still in test tube size&quot

All amounts in Euro,

based on XE.com
1 SGD = 0.499410 EUR
however, given that CC card companies charge approx 4% more.

tentatively you will use this conversion rate.
1 SGD= 0.4794336 EUR (ie: 0.499410 * 0.96)

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--- Weitergeleitete Nachricht / Forwarded Message ---
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:27:38 +0200
From: (Tomas Kaliebe)
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: Re: Singapore?

> Sehr geehrte XXXXXXXXX,
>
> hier die gewünschten Preisinformationen (netto) nach Auskunft von Kroll
> International, Flughafen Berlin-Tegel:
>
> bis 50 kg Mindestwert 76,69 ?/kg
> für jedes weitere kg = 4,33 ?/kg
> + 0,20 ?/kg Treibstoff- & Sicherheitszuschlag
> + 40,0 ? Abwicklungskosten durch Kroll International.
>
> Die aktuelle Stock- und Orderlliste sende ich als Anlage. Nur die auf
> dieser
> Liste aufgeführten Kulturen sind derzeit wirklich erhältlich. Diese Liste
> wird wöchentlich aktuallisiert. Über einen Katalog verfügen wir leider
> nicht.
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Tomas Kaliebe
> ZOOLogiCa Aquarienpflanzen
> ...denn Qualität lohnt sich!
>
here are the infos about the prices (infos by Kroll international, aerodrome
Berlin-Tegel)
Net prices in Euros:

till 50kg 76,69 euro per kilo
for more kilo: 4,33 euro per kilo
+ 0,20 Euro/kilo for security and gas for plane
+40,00 Euro for the work of Kroll international.

the price and order list is in the attachment in this mail.
only these plants are available. the list will be actual (?) every week.
no catalogue.

greezt
Zoologica

(take note: german notation = , is decimal point)
so 40,00 euro is 40.00 Euro to us.
---catalogue to follow in next post.----------


please quote the Catalogue number when compiling the list of items. I hope only to have a single post per person replying on this thread. hopefully mods will delete the trash/irrelevant posts


do not ask me what the plant is. search the web.
http://homepages.compuserve.de/wasserpflanzen/index.htm
if you can get the plant in singapore, don't bother either.
this is primarily for "rare echinodorus" only
I doubt your soft leave stem plants can make the journey anyway.




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liste =list. equal if price or not heh
Preisliste=prcelist
Angebot=offer

Ab 10 (!) Stück= mena ssomething like when u want to have 10 of them (more plants of one and the price is cheaper
Echinodorus- XL-Pflanzen und Mutterpflanzen, verschiedene Sorten und Arten
E. XL plants and mother plants, different kinds
Schwimmpflanzen= plants that swim, like water lili


Stück Code Botanischer Name Deutscher Name Preis Farbe
pieces-code_Botanical name_german name_price_color

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Since these are patented, I hope not to see the market flooded with these. you and i will get into trouble. (at least no commercial selling.)


collection:
once they arrive, collection, and cash top up (for division of shipping) will be required.
collection is most likely on saturday mornings or sunday mornings before noon.

failure to collect after a week = forfeit, I'll give the plant to someone else or something like that.

[loupgarou]

ZOOLogiCa ® Aquarienpflanzen
...denn Qualität lohnt sich!
Fon an 033438 61809 * Fax 033438 67963 NL
e-mail: [email protected] * www.echinodoren.de

Sonnengereifte Aquarienpflanzen
in der 26. KW vom 23. bis 27. Juni 2003
– direkt aus der Brandenburger Spezialgärtnerei

Sonderangebote der Woche
Pflanzen im Gittertopf, durchwurzelt
Stück Code Botanischer Name Liste Angebot Angebot
ab 10 (!) Stück
_____ EC003T Echinodorus ´Frans Stoffels´ 2,55 2,40 2,20
_____ EC024T Echinodorus ´Paul Kloecker´ 2,55 2,40 2,20
_____ EC005T Ech. ´Regine Hildebrandt´ 2,55 2,40 2,20
_____ EC0116T Ech. ´Spidernet´ 2,55 2,40 2,20
_____ CR10T Crinum calamistratum 4,00 3,50 2,95


Stängelpflanzen im Bund (Preisgruppe A) Angebot Angebot
ab 10 (!) St. ab 20 (!) St.
_____ AT10N Alternanthera ´Bettzickiana´ 1,00 0,76 0,66 0,60
_____ AT12N Altern. ´Bettzickiana´ “Tricolor” 1,00 0,76 0,66 0,60
_____ AT20N Alternanthera reineckii 1,00 0,76 0,66 0,60
_____ BC40N Bacopa monnieri 1,00 0,76 0,66 0,60
_____ JU20N Justicia genduarussa 1,00 0,76 0,66 0,60
_____ PG10N Polygonium spec. 1,00 0,76 0,66 0,60

Echinodorus- XL-Pflanzen und Mutterpflanzen, verschiedene Sorten und Arten

_____ EC00XL Echinodorus XL-Pflanze Echinodorus-XL-Pflanzen nur 3,50
_____ EC00M Echinodorus XXL-Pflanze Echinodorus-Mutterpflanzen nur 6,00


UNSCHLAGBAR PREISWERT & IN TOP-Qualität
Schwimmpflanzen Liste Angebot Angebot
ab 20 (!) St. ab 50 (!) St.
_____ KEI10XL Eichhornia crassipes 0,70 0,50 0,35
_____ KPI10L Pistia stratiotes 0,50 0,40 0,30

NEU IM PROGRAMM:
„Endlich einmal ein Wasserpflanzenbuch, das man mit ruhigem Gewissen empfehlen kann... „ (Dr. H.-J. Herrmann, AF)

____ CLAUS-P. GERING: AQUARIENPFLANZEN (KOSMOS)
11,95 €/Stück > Ladenabgabepreis: 15,90 € (incl. 7% MwSt)



Aquarienpflanzen im Gittertopf, durchwurzelt
Stück Code Botanischer Name Deutscher Name Preis Farbe

_____ AN20S A. barteri var. bateri Rundblättriges Speerblatt 2,55 orange
_____ AN21T A. barteri var. ´Compact´ Gedrungenes Speerblatt 2,55 orange
_____ AN30S A. barteri var. nana Zwergspeerblatt 2,55 orange
_____ AN40T A. barteri var. coffeefolia Kaffeeblättriges Speerblatt 4,00 weiss
_____ AN50T A. congensis Kongo- Speerblatt 2,55 orange

_____ BC10T Bacopa caroliniana submers Grosses Fettblatt 1,60 rot
_____ BC11T Bacopa caroliniana emers Grosses Fettblatt 1,60 rot
_____ CE20T Ceratopt. thalictroides (fein ) Filigran- oder Stufenfarn 1,60 rot
_____ CR10T Crinum calamistratum Dauerwellenhakenlilie 4,00 gelb
_____ CR30T Crinum thaianum Thailändische Wasserlilie 1,99 blau
_____ CY050T Cryptocoryne blassii Blass´ Wasserkelch 1,99 blau
_____ CY050T Cryptocoryne crispatula 1,99 blau
_____ CY100T Cryptocoryne lucens Schmalblättriger Wasserkelch 1,99 blau
_____ CY130T Cryptocoryne parva Zwergwasserkelch 1,99 blau
_____ CY181T Cryptocoryne undulata Gewellter Wasserkelch 1,99 blau
_____ CY201T Cryptocoryne wendtii ´Braun´ Wendts brauner Wasserkelch 1,99 blau
_____ CY203T Crypt. wendtii ´MI OYA´ Wendts-Sorte (Auslese) 1,99 blau

_____ EC020T Echinodorus amazonicus Amazonasschwertpflanze Standard 1,99 blau
_____ EC050T Echinodorus bleheri Große Schwertpflanze Standard 1,60 rot
_____ EC111T Echinodorus gabrielii Gabriels Schwertpflanze 2,55 orange
_____ EC170T Echinodorus latifolius Schmalblättrige Zwergschwertpflanze 1,99 blau
_____ EC270T Echinodorus mucronatus Samolus-Schwertpflanze 2,55 orange
_____ EC220T Echinodorus osiris Rötliche Schwertpflanze 1,99 blau
_____ EC210T Echinodorus ´Oriental´®

[CK Yeo]

Chris,

I am a bit lost.
From what I gather, does it mean that the shipping will cos over 100euro?
I am interested in the plants below. I am assuming that the last number is the price (2.55 euro?), but what does orange mean?

_____ EC013T Ech.´Lothario´® Sorte 2,55 orange
_____ EC024T Ech.´Paul Kloecker´® Sorte 2,55 orange
_____ EC0116T Ech.´Spidernet´® Sorte 2,55 orange
_____ EC005 T Ech.´Regine Hildebrandt´® Sorte 2,55 orange
_____ EC011 T Ech.´Red Devil´ Sorte 2,55 orange

ck

[gchoo]

Brudder Chris,

I think we need to talk... PM you soon...

[loupgarou]

gerald, no pm yet,

ckyeo, I have no idea too... I can assume that the 2.55 is the price.

[a_scape]

Dear all,
If not mistaken the color is pointing to price category like Dennerle,so :
Orange - Eur 2.55
Blue - Eur 1.99
Red - Eur 1.6
Cheers,

A Chen

[a_scape]

Dear friends,
I got an opportunity to buy some echi's in Zoologica and most of the plants is very healthy. At that time I bought during heavy winter (January), thus they explain if the plants condition was not at the optimum one although most of the size is around 15cm height.
But once I back, within first 3 weeks most of the leaves already started to perform optimum.
Even next year I will bring back some species.
As an echi collector, I think worth to order some from Germany
But be carefull if you have small size tank as most of them can grow as beautiful solitaire....
Cheers,


A Chen[]

[gchoo]

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On 6/25/2003 2:38:12 PM

Dear friends,
I got an opportunity to buy some echi's in Zoologica and most of the plants is very healthy. At that time I bought during heavy winter (January), thus they explain if the plants condition was not at the optimum one although most of the size is around 15cm height.
But once I back, within first 3 weeks most of the leaves already started to perform optimum.
Even next year I will bring back some species.
As an echi collector, I think worth to order some from Germany
But be carefull if you have small size tank as most of them can grow as beautiful solitaire....
Cheers,


A Chen[]
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Hey,
Are you based in Singapore? Can meet and have a beer??

[a_scape]

Hi GChoo,
It's my turn to invite you for wine in Jakarta.
Cheers,

A Chen

[gchoo]

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On 6/25/2003 11:23:24 AM

gerald, no pm yet,

ckyeo, I have no idea too... I can assume that the 2.55 is the price.

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Sorry was taking a fair bit of time to digest german.

Can you confirm if the plants come in emmersed? Else the plants definately wont survive.

Anyway my wishlist/order:

EC003T Ech.´Frans Stoffels´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC007T Ech.´IpiCa´ Sorte 2,55 orange
EC013T Ech.´Lothario´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC024T Ech.´Paul Kloecker´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC0116T Ech.´Spidernet´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC005 T Ech.´Regine Hildebrandt´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC011 T Ech.´Red Devil´ Sorte 2,55 orange
PG10____Polygonium spec (K = Terracottatöpfchen (4 cm) 1,20 €)

I would also like to have the mother plant for the above. It says in your note (pls verify, thanks!!) "All mother plants XXL size €6 only"

Also PMed you...

[loupgarou]

Echinodorus- XL-Pflanzen und Mutterpflanzen, verschiedene Sorten und Arten E xl plnats and mother plants, different kinds

_____ EC00XL Echinodorus XL-Pflanze Echinodorus-XL-Pflanzen nur only 3,50
_____ EC00M Echinodorus XXL-Pflanze Echinodorus-Mutterpflanzen nur 6,00

^^ I'm almost certain it says if the EC**XL, its a mother plant etc.. so if the designation is without the XL or M its not a mother plant:

anyway, I will double check

[gchoo]

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On 6/25/2003 5:25:03 PM

Hi GChoo,
It's my turn to invite you for wine in Jakarta.
Cheers,

A Chen

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PMed you!! A Scape.

[gchoo]

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On 6/25/2003 8:41:17 PM

ok: mother plants.

I asked my friend and she said mother plants are in motherplant section, since no specific mention of a list of motherplants, I guess you only have to specify you want the motherplant and if they got stock, you will get it. note the price changes.

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I will be placing final order next monday.

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Bro Chris,

Could you specify in my wishlist, all if possible motherplants else normal size. Also can PM me the cost?

[aquaturbo]

Yo,

Please also include my order:


_____ EC111T Echinodorus gabrielii Gabriels Schwertpflanze 2,55 orange
_____ EC003T Ech.´Frans Stoffels´® Sorte 2,55 orange
_____ EC007T Ech.´IpiCa´ Sorte 2,55 orange
_____ EC013T Ech.´Lothario´® Sorte 2,55 orange
_____ EC024T Ech.´Paul Kloecker´® Sorte 2,55 orange
_____ EC0116T Ech.´Spidernet´® Sorte 2,55 orange
_____ EC005 T Ech.´Regine Hildebrandt´® Sorte 2,55 orange
_____ EC011 T Ech.´Red Devil´ Sorte 2,55 orange

Similar, if possible get motherplants else normal size.

[gchoo]

Brudder Chris,

got any updates??

[loupgarou]

order list.

For Chris: 5 plants
EC007T Ech.´IpiCa´ Sorte 2,55 orange
EC0116T Ech.´Spidernet´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC005 T Ech.´Regine Hildebrandt´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC011 T Ech.´Red Devil´ Sorte 2,55 orange
RR10T Rorippa aquatica Wassermeerrettich 1,60 rot

For CKYeo: 5 plants
EC013T Ech.´Lothario´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC024T Ech.´Paul Kloecker´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC0116T Ech.´Spidernet´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC005 T Ech.´Regine Hildebrandt´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC011 T Ech.´Red Devil´ Sorte 2,55 orange

For GChoo: 8 plants
EC003T Ech.´Frans Stoffels´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC007T Ech.´IpiCa´ Sorte 2,55 orange
EC013T Ech.´Lothario´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC024T Ech.´Paul Kloecker´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC0116T Ech.´Spidernet´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC005 T Ech.´Regine Hildebrandt´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC011 T Ech.´Red Devil´ Sorte 2,55 orange
PG10 Polygonium spec (K = Terracottatöpfchen (4 cm) 1,20 €)


For Aquaturbo: 8 plants
EC111T Echinodorus gabrielii Gabriels Schwertpflanze 2,55 orange
EC003T Ech.´Frans Stoffels´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC007T Ech.´IpiCa´ Sorte 2,55 orange
EC013T Ech.´Lothario´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC024T Ech.´Paul Kloecker´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC0116T Ech.´Spidernet´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC005 T Ech.´Regine Hildebrandt´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC011 T Ech.´Red Devil´ Sorte 2,55 orange

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I will divide shipping cost by proportionate weight .
however, going by the number of plants.

let's estimate 2kg.
(76,69 * 2) +40.0 + 0.20 = 193.58 E
divide by 27 plants =
7.44E per plant approximately. (approx shipping of SGD$15 per plant.)


make sure its within your price range.


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gchoo: you sure you want Polygonium spec ?

Polygonium Amphibium







I will check how to pay before making the final order (ask them to check for mother plants as well).

no more orders from anyone else.

[aquaturbo]

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order list.

For Aquaturbo: 8 plants
EC111T Echinodorus gabrielii Gabriels Schwertpflanze 2,55 orange
EC003T Ech.´Frans Stoffels´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC007T Ech.´IpiCa´ Sorte 2,55 orange
EC013T Ech.´Lothario´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC024T Ech.´Paul Kloecker´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC0116T Ech.´Spidernet´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC005 T Ech.´Regine Hildebrandt´® Sorte 2,55 orange
EC011 T Ech.´Red Devil´ Sorte 2,55 orange

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I will check how to pay before making the final order (ask them to check for mother plants as well).

no more orders from anyone else.
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Er..
Sorry for last minute update.
Could I cancel the order for:
EC111T Echinodorus gabrielii Gabriels Schwertpflanze 2,55 orange

I think it can be found in Oriental.

So my total will be 7 plants.


Rgds.

[gchoo]

gchoo: you sure you want Polygonium spec ?

Polygonium Amphibium

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Bro, can check for me if the polygonium sp is in emmersed form? (It has to be else wont make it... so if its not, exclude it in my order list)

Thanks!!

BTW, what's this Polygonium Amphibium thingy that you have included in your post?

[loupgarou]

wouldn't know. anyway do you have a picture of polygonium sp?

[gchoo]

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On 7/1/2003 10:18:02 AM

wouldn't know. anyway do you have a picture of polygonium sp?

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Yes I have but wont know if its the same sp being referred to.