Calling all White's Tree Frog Owners

[David Moses Heng]

I have posted about this ban on thread #258.

[delhezi]

Well, that's one step back..

[stelim]

I heard some second hand news that a pet shop in Serangoon North has got the licence and will bring in a batch soon. Anyone staying nearby can confirm?

[lopches]

hi guys, i checked with AVA. The sale of whites are not banned in Singapore. The pet shop has to undergo some training before being allowed to sell the frog. I believe this is due to certain pet shops not housing them appropriately, im not sure did not enquire on this aspect.

[delhezi]

If what has been said is true, then this is a fantastic development. White's should deserve the adequate amounts of care they require. There is no reason otherwise, and for potential buyers, no reason to put white tree frogs in anything less than a 2ft tank.

[69efan69]

hi guys, i checked with AVA. The sale of whites are not banned in Singapore. The pet shop has to undergo some training before being allowed to sell the frog. I believe this is due to certain pet shops not housing them appropriately, im not sure did not enquire on this aspect.

This is Good News!!

[dkk08]

It's good that members here do their own homework rather then hear 1 side of the story, especially when the story has no grounds in the first place... AVA will not revoke license to sell White's Tree frogs and they certainly won't revoke QianHu's license to import and sell White's Tree frogs, they are after all QianHu! And I don't see White's Tree frogs invading the local eco system and destroying local fauna... even Terrapins amd Luohan are still being sold after so many of them are being released at Little Guilin, reservoirs and some big drains... so ya logically AVA will not revoke any license to sell these animals...

Do check if the shops have license to sell the frogs before purchasing them if not you are just abiding the shop in what AVA would consider illegal sales of White's Tree frogs... and it may get you into trouble as well...

[69efan69]

Tank Clean up time! some pics to share ...

[69efan69]

Tank all ready and clean !

[69efan69]

Decided not to use any background at the moment.. feels clean feels good! share your setup guys!




cheers!

[David Moses Heng]

Some months back, I shared here in this forum about the ban on whites in our LFS. This info, when I share it was NOT BASED ON MY OWN ASSUMPTION. I did a check with the relevant parties concerned and was told that there will be a temporary ban on the sales of whites due to the following reasons:

1) Unlicensed import by shops or farms that DO NOT have the permit to bring them in
2) Unlicensed LFS selling them, FAILING TO provide proper housing for the frogs.
3) Local hobby market NOT educated enough for such massive availability of the frogs.

However things have since changed when I checked last week. While AVA will step up on their checks on LFS and take action against errant LFS and or farms, they have, for now, allow the import and sales of the frogs but there are monitoring the situation.

Concurrently, I am also putting together a paper asking for the legislation of local frogs to be kept as pets.

Regards.



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[69efan69]

Guys ,

do you have problems with crickets eating away the plants in your tank ?

[dkk08]

Guys ,

do you have problems with crickets eating away the plants in your tank ?

Yes, that'll usually happens when you throw the crickets or mealworms in to roam freely instead of handfeeding 1 by 1.

[delhezi]

Very glad the AVA is taking steps to protect them and caution those who would do it otherwise. There are too many goldfish bowls around, hope they ban those too.

Should probably feed them on a one by one basis, especially if you're using the black crickets. Crickets can and may maim your frogs whilst they sleep during the day.

69efan69, do you bury the plants pots into your tank, or do you remove them to replant into the vivarium? Thanks!

[69efan69]

69efan69, do you bury the plants pots into your tank, or do you remove them to replant into the vivarium? Thanks!

I removed them and replant

fixed this thing back in.. not sure if accurate haha..

[cherabin]

Great photos how often do you clean up the frogs enclosure?

I noticed the frogs were olive when initially brought into the holding tank and became green later on. Does the removal of the background have an effect on the frogs colour? i.e. they stay green mostly?

Many thanks for your time to answer the above questions

[delhezi]

Nope, the background usually doesn't have much of an effect on the frogs colours. My own are brownish in the day, and then they turn green at night.

[Don90]

Anyone knows where to get those big black crickets for the frogs? polyart's black crix are really small...

[FuEl]

Those lights are good for reptiles but not really frogs, a little too hot IMO. Fluorescents or LED will be better, they do not need to bask like reptiles. Using cooler lights will help maintain higher humidity.

[delhezi]

Concurrently, I am also putting together a paper asking for the legislation of local frogs to be kept as pets.

I would heed caution before doing this. Whilst there are people in Singapore who care properly for frogs, a vast majority are predictably uneducated on the topic; nor would many potential frog keepers care to do so. I see no sense in giving people the liberty to obtain sensitive pets that they see as cheap trinkets; nor to the same people who still put terrapins in 1 gallon critter keepers.

For that matter, most of the people claiming to have done research have merely clicked the first link of the google search; and whatever attention paid to the information within it is menial.

If pro-exotic keeping legislation is passed, the standards for keeping and respect of these pets by Singaporeans must also pass. Let's not end up like other countries with abused frogs in petstore chains.