L181 spawn!

[zonkkie]

Not as exciting as the more expensive L numbers, but here are my babies.

Erm... any idea whether need to feed bbs or just put them back in my tank with algae will do?

[barmby]

hahaha! happy for you. well done. how about pictorial of the parent fishes?

[equidorz]

Woah very nice! Will look nicer when the colour kicks in. Anyway will u be selling them? I am looking for some L183 man! Do let me know if you are selling!

[ZackZhou]

nice one zonkkie

[zonkkie]

barmby - actually it is a community tank, so I do not know the pair. I only know the male since he is guarding the cave.

This is the male...



And during younger days when the white ream is still there.



equidorz - Well, if they all grow up nice and well, will definitely have to sell some of them due to bioload since I only can have 2 x 2 ft tank. As it is, mine tanks are HDB style already....



bro Zack - thanks thanks...

[hondacivic]

bro.. i have the same situation as yours.. mine L183 when bought small have the white seam on the top fin and tail.. but after 1 year or so, the white seam on the top fin had fade off..

heard some poeple say that there are fake L183 which is L180, is it true??

[zonkkie]

hondacivic - sorry, not an expert. They were sold to me as L183 by someone who is into plecos so I assumed that is what they are. Online also seems to have conflicting information. At least mine didn't lose the spots... just the seams.

[hondacivic]

haha.. thanks bro..

any pics of the females?? i don't know how to determine the sexes..

what's your 183 age when it breed??

[zonkkie]

hondacivic - think there are a lot better pictures online on how to determine the sexes. Basically the males have more bristles on the nose.

anyway, here are more pictures of the young. They have developed the signature spots. Here's 4 of them.



And a couple of neon tetras in the background for size comparison. They are around half the size of the neons.

[hondacivic]

opps.. sorry MODS, for the short form.. my bad habits..

thanks bro..

nice chatting with you.. congrats on your spawn..

[betta_gene]

congrats bro , cute looking fries there hope you have fun raising them and time to time try to update us in this thread!

[johannes]

Nice going bro, if i am not wrong you got the trio from me?
They are in good hands indeed, you can actually put some dw in the fry tank and feed them pellets. Or if they are in the parents' tank, you can feed them as per normal.
By the way, they are sold to me at C328 as L183 but we are still unsure of the ID..

[zonkkie]

Hi johannes, yes, they are from you. Ok, so I guess they might or might not be L183s then. They are in parent's tanks, got a lot of driftwood and some algae so should be fine.

[celticfish]

I'm afraid they aren't L183s...
These should be L180/181.
At juvenile stage they all look very alike with the spotting and white seam.
Once they get older only L183 will maintain the white seam while the other lose it (I reckon about 2" onwards).

[zonkkie]

Thanks for confirmation irwin! Erm... you want to help me change the title of my thread to "L180/181 spawn!" then?
Also wonder if the latest batch of "L183" from C328 are real L183.

[Shaihulud]

If you can take a shot of the erect dorsal fin, we may clear the matter. L183 has 10 rays while L181 has 9
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog...species_id=221

http://www.bristlenoseworld.com/t942...permint-bnl181

[zonkkie]

Hi Shaihulud, I think I am fairly confident they are not L183 already. But it's ok, love them anyways, especially the cute little fries Will be travelling to Bangkok for 3 days, hope no casulties while I am away. Will update when back.

[hondacivic]

I'm afraid they aren't L183s...
These should be L180/181.
At juvenile stage they all look very alike with the spotting and white seam.
Once they get older only L183 will maintain the white seam while the other lose it (I reckon about 2" onwards).

If you can take a shot of the erect dorsal fin, we may clear the matter. L183 has 10 rays while L181 has 9
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog...species_id=221

http://www.bristlenoseworld.com/t942...permint-bnl181

thanks MODs celticfish and Shaihulud for clearing the doubts between L180/L181 & L183.. learn some stuff from this thread..

Hi Shaihulud, I think I am fairly confident they are not L183 already. But it's ok, love them anyways, especially the cute little fries Will be travelling to Bangkok for 3 days, hope no casulties while I am away. Will update when back.

good luck for your trip..

*please refrain from using sms lingo and spell the words properly (johannes)

[celticfish]

Excellent point shaihulud.

I reckon they should be L181 aka peppermint pleco.
And I've changed the title as requested.

[zonkkie]

Thanks Irwin for changing the title. I've moved the little guys into a breeder box with driftwood. They don't seems to be eating my sinking pellets so moved them into a breeder box. Continued to feed them pellets but clean it up after 12 hours. Initially counted around 10 but only saw 7 in the box today.





Can see one little guy has escaped. Reckon the rest escaped as well as I didn't see any dead bodies. But don't have $100 hanging over every fry so lazy to rip up the tank to look for them. Cute little fellers but even at this age, don't like lights and is always hiding in holes in the driftwood.