David's method is the one I usually adopt as well. but after some time, the cardinals learn and they will hide, so you cant herd them when they are amongst the plants. there's where the patience come in.
Another method i used for fishes like SAE is to catch them after lights are off. when lights are off and you suddenly on it again, the fish are quite slow to react to this actually and you can fish them out easily.
very successful for fishes that sleeps in the open. i tried this method with success for teh lone cardinal, SAE, pencils etc. but careful, because it may stress your fishes a bit.
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