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  • PL

    3 3.26%
  • T8

    2 2.17%
  • T5

    21 22.83%
  • MH

    9 9.78%
  • LED

    57 61.96%
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    Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

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    As titled, would like to find out your preferred lighting choice

    PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED
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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    PL for me.


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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    I think LED will soon take over from T5 n MH as cost gets lower and also LED produce far less heat than any of the other lights

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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    I'm using LED for my 4 footer.
    Heat transfered to heatsink, water temp below 29 degC without fan.


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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Hi smk, may I know which brand of LED set you're using?

    And yes LED will likely take over the rest as LED becomes cheaper and there're wider choices of LED sets available in the market.
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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    i voted for LED. really very low in heat emission. most of my plants are moss so there's not much problem.
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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Hi,

    I'm using 3 sets of AQUA Lumen.



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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    t5 , waiting for cree leds fixture to be better priced

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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Wow bro smk, how much did your 3 set of Aqua Lumen cost and any reviews on it? Cost wise? Performance wise? Any thing you would like to see better or change?

    I'm seriously considering changing all my T5s to LEDs too
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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Hey Limz, how much would you pay for a Cree LED fixture? I know a Cree Par38 is already about $150-$180...
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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Quote Originally Posted by dkk08 View Post
    Hey Limz, how much would you pay for a Cree LED fixture? I know a Cree Par38 is already about $150-$180...

    my bad ,i meant those 3 watt cree leds , quite subjective on the pricing , i feel its on the high side for those off the shelf


    @smk

    i think aqua lumen is using 3w leds as well
    is it cheaper to hook up 3 sets ? whats the dimension of your tank , length and height ?

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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Hi,

    Other US or Japanese brand LED light set price is about 3 x to 4x of what i paid for. And the rest, IMO is more for Marine, I feel that they are over powered for the type of plant i have (maybe i will have other algae problem .. hahah).
    i tank size is 4ft x 1.5ft x H1.5ft.


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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Quote Originally Posted by limz_777 View Post
    my bad ,i meant those 3 watt cree leds , quite subjective on the pricing , i feel its on the high side for those off the shelf
    Limz: what price point are you thinking of? I think the capabilities/pricing has improved tremendously from the few years that these lights have been used. IMO, it's almost like buying computers - there's a "sweet spot" for price, and capabilities have gone up for the same prices..

    You may want to take a look at my DIY if you haven't already- I started looking/designing with the CREE XR-Es, then XP-Es and Gs came along when I was ready to order, and now the XM-Ls are 'standard'... at roughly the same or slightly higher prices - but much brighter (Lm/W)

    I think at the end of the day, the choice goes back to how much effort and time (and $s) you'll want to spend on tweaking this to make it work. All technologies have pros-and -cons. Me, I've settled for LEDs cos it's low(er) power and little/no heat.

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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    think you mistook my point , off the shelf ready made led lighting brands like maxspect , eco tech , to light up a 3 ft tank can be quite costly

    if its diy i gladly pay for the parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by smk View Post
    Hi,

    I'm using 3 sets of AQUA Lumen.



    mk
    Hey bro I also feel like changing to led light. You use 3 1ft aqua lumen led lights. Meaning you need to use 3 socket plug? How you connect them. Sorry for asking so much question.
    still learning the hard way!!

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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Quote Originally Posted by neverwalkalone View Post
    Limz: what price point are you thinking of? I think the capabilities/pricing has improved tremendously from the few years that these lights have been used. IMO, it's almost like buying computers - there's a "sweet spot" for price, and capabilities have gone up for the same prices..

    You may want to take a look at my DIY if you haven't already- I started looking/designing with the CREE XR-Es, then XP-Es and Gs came along when I was ready to order, and now the XM-Ls are 'standard'... at roughly the same or slightly higher prices - but much brighter (Lm/W)

    I think at the end of the day, the choice goes back to how much effort and time (and $s) you'll want to spend on tweaking this to make it work. All technologies have pros-and -cons. Me, I've settled for LEDs cos it's low(er) power and little/no heat.
    Got this new toy recently:





    Specifically, XM-L diodes from Cree.

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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Quote Originally Posted by neverwalkalone View Post
    ...I started looking/designing with the CREE XR-Es, then XP-Es and Gs came along when I was ready to order, and now the XM-Ls are 'standard'... at roughly the same or slightly higher prices - but much brighter (Lm/W)...
    Not only are they capable of being much brighter, to generate the same lumens, XM-L bulbs require lesser power, which translate into lesser heat, which translate into longer LED lifespan. For example: to generate

    an Q4-binned Warm White XR-E generates 170-ish lumens at 700mA of wattage (power)
    an R3-binned Neutral White XP-G generates 228 lumens at 700mA of wattage (power)
    an T5-binned Neutral White XM-L generates 260 lumens at 700mA of wattage (power)

    In other words, if you only need around 100+ lumens per diode, you can roughly approximate how much cooler & lesser electricity required, if you use an XM-L diode.

    @neverwalkalone, do you remember me? I once approached you to DIY an LED set for me. In the end, I went to go through the learning process by myself. It proves to be, "challenging". But I think I roughly got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khseah79 View Post
    I think LED will soon take over from T5 n MH as cost gets lower and also LED produce far less heat than any of the other lights
    Seah. I totally agree with this thinking.
    The question is when will led reach T5 prices & will the bulbs be easy to replace like t5 tubes/Mh bulbs?

    Just some food for thought.
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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    ...will the bulbs be easy to replace like t5 tubes/Mh bulbs?...
    Already possible:

    Solderless CREE XP-G Cool White LED

    BJB Solderless LED Connector

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    Re: Poll on Preferred Lighting. PL vs T8 vs T5 vs MH vs LED

    Quote Originally Posted by ralliart12 View Post
    not implemented in off the shelf sets... the 1st link (no offence) is just cree star with a soldered connector..
    the 2nd on however, is what i am mentioning... but replacements parts for LFS sold sets (off the shelf sets) which or less burden on pocket will take some time.
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