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    Wild Bettas in Singapore?

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    DO anyone of you know whether is there a list of Wild Bettas in Singapore?
    I'm bringing in pure wild betta Splendens, Betta Simplex and hopely Betta Pi and Betta Pugnax to breed. Thought of releasing some into the waterways and streams of Singapore to let them Propagate

    Is that a good idea?
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    Seriously,i had not seen a wild betta before.So i not sure.Heard they are the largest in size.

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    Betta is the genus to which the siamese fighting fish Betta splendens belong to. There is a large number of betta species (by definition = wild) distributed in Southeast Asia. You can check out this site.

    In Singapore the only native Betta is the Betta pugnax, so if you want to release specimens I suggest only the pugnax.

    BTW how do you make sure your B. splendens is truly wild? Apparently a lot of aquarium strains in thailand had escaped back into the wild and it is hard to tell.

    ps: the species name (or epithet) is never capitalised, only the genus is.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    I had jus went to the site.I am very confused but thanx bro for introducing me to the site. Those really fierce fighter that gives instant death belong to which species?

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    here are the list of bettas you will be able to find in Singapore, mostly owned by fish keepers.

    Betta Splendens
    Betta Pugnax
    Betta Imbellis
    Betta Smaragdina
    Betta Coccina
    Betta Brownorum

    As for wild species, I am not too sure.

    Hope it helps.

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    On 11/14/2003 2:08:58 PM

    I had jus went to the site.I am very confused but thanx bro for introducing me to the site. Those really fierce fighter that gives instant death belong to which species?
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    there are two main species of Betta used for fighting (as in "entertainment for boys&quot, the Betta splendens and the Betta smaragdina. Both are native to Thailand, the splendens in the south and smaragdina in the north. I believe their range overlap a little. So you will find Thais in the south fighting with Betta splendens and those in the north fights with B. smaragdina.

    As for those "beautiful" fighting fish commonly found in Singapore shops, they are aquarium strains of Betta splendens, more commonly called Fancy Betta. You would not find "half-moon", "crown-tail" etc in a Thailand swamp.

    Let's see some pics (all taken from the IBC SMP site):

    WILD Betta splendens and biotope in Saraburi, Thailand.




    Betta smaragdina and biotope in Ban Phue, Udon Thani, Thailand.

    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    there are quite a number of wild betta species available in Singapore, here are some of those that I have kept:

    Betta brownorum male



    Betta coccina male (from Jambi, Sumatra)



    Betta livida male and female (from North Selangor swamp, Malay peninsula), endangered.



    Betta rutilans male (from Kalimantan)



    Betta sp. 'antonii' male



    Betta sp. 'Pangkalanbun' male (from Pangkalanbun, Kalimantan Tengah)

    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    nice pics hwchoy.....they r really a beauty. Havant seen any LFs selling these fishes b4.

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    On 11/14/2003 2:52:13 PM

    nice pics hwchoy.....they r really a beauty. Havant seen any LFs selling these fishes b4.
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    You would seldom come across wild species of bettas in LFS. Approach people who are into betta keeping and they will guide you to the relevant person to speak to. For the common imbellis, you can approach Kelvin (zhizz in arofanatics).

    I used to breed coccinas, I bought them at Rainbow at Seletar Farmway. Look for Diana.

    Cheers
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    nice pics hwchoy.....they r really a beauty. Havant seen any LFs selling these fishes b4.
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    you can try Biotope (check LFS list). you can also join the Singapore Wild Betta Club where you will be able to chat with other Betta maniacs and be the first to chope fishes that others want to let go. To join go to Yahoo group or (I think) send mail to [email protected].

    In fact just managed to buy 1 male and 2 female Betta sp. 'Mahachai' yesterday.

    Betta sp. 'Mahachai' male, female and biotope in Mahachai, Samut Sakorn, Thailand.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    BTW how do you make sure your B. splendens is truly wild?
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    I'll have to trust the Thai breeder that's supplying me with these wonderful wild bettas!
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    The fighters belong to Splendens but most fighters are crossed to imbellis for their sharp teeth. I have lots of fighters
    Lyon © I would rather walk a thousand leagues then to see your ugly face

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    In fact just managed to buy 1 male and 2 female Betta sp. 'Mahachai' yesterday.

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    how much did you bought your Mahachai for? I dun wan Mahachai as they are too common
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    mahachai common? in Singapore? anyway bought it from a fella in the Wild Betta Club list.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    On 11/14/2003 8:00:07 PM

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    BTW how do you make sure your B. splendens is truly wild?
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    I'll have to trust the Thai breeder that's supplying me with these wonderful wild bettas!
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    heh! get wild bettas from breeders!?
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    All this pictures are gorgeous!I like it alot.I will be going to Bangkok on sat.Hope i found some rare species.

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    On 11/14/2003 8:06:10 PM

    mahachai common? in Singapore? anyway bought it from a fella in the Wild Betta Club list.
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    Yep, there's alot of Betta aquarium selling them
    Lyon © I would rather walk a thousand leagues then to see your ugly face

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    heh! get wild bettas from breeders!?
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    They catch it from the streams and waterways
    Lyon © I would rather walk a thousand leagues then to see your ugly face

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    heh! get wild bettas from breeders!?
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    They catch it from the streams and waterways
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    yes, that's back to the original problem I asked about. no one is really sure even if you catch it in the streams whether they're not descended from escaped aquarium strains. however I guess it is quite academic if you're not trying to study their gene pool or investigate locality variations.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    But they are registered in the Wild Betta list of IBC. I mean the breeders
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