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    Question on LUSHGro-AQUA

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    Just got myself a bottle of LUSHGro-AQUA & KNO3 at ECO (GREAT Service !) , it states if i am not wrong that

    On LUSHGro K =51.711 &
    KNO3 =38

    My question is since the K in LUSHGro is already enough, I wonder why is there a need for KNO3???

    Thanks in advance

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    KNO3 is for N not for K. You will need to dose KNO3 depend on you bioload.

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    There was a discussion some time back on the same topic at http://www.aquaticquotient.com/phpbb...pic.php?t=9439.
    In that thread, we even included an Excel dosing calculator.
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    On 12/1/2003 2:59:07 AM

    There was a discussion some time back on the same topic at http://www.aquaticquotient.com/phpbb...pic.php?t=9439.
    In that thread, we even included an Excel dosing calculator.
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    Is the Excel dosing calculator updated for the current product's composition?
    Corydoras: 2 x adolfoi, 1 x agassizii, 5 x albino aeneus, 3 x arcuatus, 4 x atropersonatus, 3 x axelrodi, 6 x axelrodi variante B, 4 x caudimaculatus, 5 x duplicareus, 8 x goldlines, 3 x kanei, 3 x loretoensis, 6 x melini, 4 x panda, 6 x schwartzi, 3 x similis, 4 x sterbai, 4 x surinamensis, 5 x trilineatus, 4 x tukano & 3 x zygatus

    RIP 1 x adolfoi, 1 x albino aeneus & 2 x panda

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    On 12/1/2003 9:03:44 PM
    Is the Excel dosing calculator updated for the current product's composition?
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    The Fe calculation is wrong. Should not be 13% of the stated value.

    The stated amount is the effective amount, should use 100% for calculation.
    Has confirm personally with Dr Mallick.

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    My bioload is rather heavy, so should i avoid using it since i hv not started on it yet.

    Another question - do i dose it once in a week? what the regime like?

    what instruments is use to dose the amount with?

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    On 12/2/2003 12:18:27 AM

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    On 12/1/2003 9:03:44 PM
    Is the Excel dosing calculator updated for the current product's composition?
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    The Fe calculation is wrong. Should not be 13% of the stated value.

    The stated amount is the effective amount, should use 100% for calculation.
    Has confirm personally with Dr Mallick.

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    I also ask Dr Mallick about this. I am no expert but this was what he said:
    "I use Dissolvine E-Fe-13 (Fe-EDTA) containing 13.00% iron in both Lushgro Aqua and Micros..."
    Anyway, you can modify the Excel sheet contents if there are new updates in the formula.
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    KF, I think the content in LushGro is Fe as EDTA (refering to just Fe) and not Fe-EDTA. Should not multiply by 13%.

    BC

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    On 12/2/2003 12:05:02 PM

    KF, I think the content in LushGro is Fe as EDTA (refering to just Fe) and not Fe-EDTA. Should not multiply by 13%.

    BC
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    BC, ya, I got the same explantation from Dr Mallick.
    The content specified is the AMOUNT of Fe (as derived from Fe-EDTA). The 100% EFFECTIVE amount of Fe.

    Juggler,
    it is not wrong for this statement as well..
    "I use Dissolvine E-Fe-13 (Fe-EDTA) containing 13.00% iron in both Lushgro Aqua and Micros..."

    I ask Dr Mallick to explain further,
    Yes, he extracted/derrived the Fe from Fe-ETDA, and Fe-ETDA does contain 13% of Fe.
    However, the Fe content specified on the bottle is the pure Fe content, teh actual amount.

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    If that's the case, even better. I thought the Fe content is so low.
    OK. I will correct the Excel sheet to remove the 13% thing.
    [as I said, I am no expert lah. ]
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    On 12/2/2003 2:44:59 PM

    If that's the case, even better. I thought the Fe content is so low.
    OK. I will correct the Excel sheet to remove the 13% thing.
    [as I said, I am no expert lah. ]
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    Where can I find the updated Excel file? Thanks.
    Corydoras: 2 x adolfoi, 1 x agassizii, 5 x albino aeneus, 3 x arcuatus, 4 x atropersonatus, 3 x axelrodi, 6 x axelrodi variante B, 4 x caudimaculatus, 5 x duplicareus, 8 x goldlines, 3 x kanei, 3 x loretoensis, 6 x melini, 4 x panda, 6 x schwartzi, 3 x similis, 4 x sterbai, 4 x surinamensis, 5 x trilineatus, 4 x tukano & 3 x zygatus

    RIP 1 x adolfoi, 1 x albino aeneus & 2 x panda

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    On 12/2/2003 6:36:27 PM

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    On 12/2/2003 2:44:59 PM

    If that's the case, even better. I thought the Fe content is so low.
    OK. I will correct the Excel sheet to remove the 13% thing.
    [as I said, I am no expert lah. ]
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    Where can I find the updated Excel file? Thanks.
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    Thanks, saw the updated file liao.
    Corydoras: 2 x adolfoi, 1 x agassizii, 5 x albino aeneus, 3 x arcuatus, 4 x atropersonatus, 3 x axelrodi, 6 x axelrodi variante B, 4 x caudimaculatus, 5 x duplicareus, 8 x goldlines, 3 x kanei, 3 x loretoensis, 6 x melini, 4 x panda, 6 x schwartzi, 3 x similis, 4 x sterbai, 4 x surinamensis, 5 x trilineatus, 4 x tukano & 3 x zygatus

    RIP 1 x adolfoi, 1 x albino aeneus & 2 x panda

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    Sorry, woodlands, hi-jack your thread....

    Hi bros & sis,
    I newbie here...
    Just got the LUSHGro-AQUA & Micros @ ECO yesterday (great service, too bad i in a rush).

    Can I add the liquid fert just after i change my water & after adding water conditioner??

    The traces are mineral compounds rite? Can they be removed by the wafer conditioner??

    Pls advice. Thanks a million....

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    Re: Question on LUSHGro-AQUA

    [quote:f161812fba="woodlands "]Just got myself a bottle of LUSHGro-AQUA & KNO3 at ECO (GREAT Service !) , it states if i am not wrong that

    On LUSHGro K =51.711 &
    KNO3 =38

    My question is since the K in LUSHGro is already enough, I wonder why is there a need for KNO3???

    Thanks in advance[/quote:f161812fba]

    Tom Barr has given a good explanation regarding use of KNO3 or K2SO4 / KCL in http://www.aquaticquotient.com/phpBB...ic.php?t=15375.

    Woodlands: The amount of KNO3 in Lushgro-Aqua is not enough unless you dose a lot. But, if you overdose, you will end up having excess trace elements. So depending on your fish load, you either need to use K2SO4 or KNO3 for your source of K.
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    Re:

    [quote:5973cb270f="ESee"]Sorry, woodlands, hi-jack your thread....

    Hi bros & sis,
    I newbie here...
    Just got the LUSHGro-AQUA & Micros @ ECO yesterday (great service, too bad i in a rush).

    Can I add the liquid fert just after i change my water & after adding water conditioner??

    The traces are mineral compounds rite? Can they be removed by the wafer conditioner??

    Pls advice. Thanks a million....[/quote:5973cb270f]

    No problem dosing after water change. That's the way most of us do it.
    Your water conditioner (anti-chlorine stuff, is it?) should be safe on the fertilisers.
    koah fong
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    Thanks juggler for your advice. BTW i am using geo liquid, should be ok rite?

    Thank you.

    Regards,
    Eric

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    Dr Mallick's Excel sheet

    Would any of the moderator stick the above to this section of the forum for easy access for all. Thanks.
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    hi, for the excel calculator, what is the meaning of the daily and weekly ppm readings? does it mean that i have to dose everyday to get the weekly reading? thanks for clarifying.

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    Mandz, look at the formula in the cell, is a multiple of 2 or 7?

    When I build that, I use to dose twice weekly, hence the total dose for the week is twice of the daily dosage. Regardless, you should be able to figure out by looking at the formula in each cell.

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    Re:

    [quote:6a6cc06b0e="mandz"]hi, for the excel calculator, what is the meaning of the daily and weekly ppm readings? does it mean that i have to dose everyday to get the weekly reading? thanks for clarifying.[/quote:6a6cc06b0e]
    You are right.
    But you can also separate your dosings to twice a week (eg. once mid-week and once after water change) for less hassle. So that will mean more amount each time. The dosing chart serves as a guide. I don't think we can be so precise. Even so, each tank is different in the way and the rate at which the nutrients are absorbed.
    koah fong
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