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    PP bomb your planted tank ???

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    greetings !!!

    i was just wondering if anyone has PP bombed their planted tanks before ???

    thanks

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    Curiously, what is pp bomb your tank? You are not making any sense to me...
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    I would guess that it means treating your tank with potassium permaganate.

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    sorry....should have defined wht PP is.

    anyway, heard and read alot about treating fishes with potassium permaganate once in awhile to freed them of any parasites or bact or whatever creepy crawlies that is living on their "skin".

    fishes seem to be more active, eat better and colour more radiant after the treatment.
    the question is.......is it safe to do this is a planted tank ???

    thanks again.

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    You must be from the Koi forum. I always overheard my colleagues 'bombing' their Koi tank. As far as I know, the word 'bomb' is never used in this forum. We put PP to clear bbs. It seems to work a little only but I'm no expert.

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    I understand it's practice by some koi hobbyists, but for planted tanks, i would say it's highly unadvisable, and unsafe for plants, livestock and owners (in the confines of a flat or house, as opposed to an outdoor pond). Some folks use it to clear new plants of snails/parasites etc, but I would never add it directly into a tank. There are far safer ways (salt, antibiotics) of dealing with disease, and i find that in a healthy planted tank, disease is rarely a problem.

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    yeah. but does it work wonders on bba.. heh

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    Chris, I thought you got a better CO2 reactor? All you have to do is to crank in the CO2 and make sure it stays high and good all day long while removing the current left over strands of BBA.

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    Re:

    [quote:178e3bbcc3="kc"]You must be from the Koi forum. I always overheard my colleagues 'bombing' their Koi tank. [/quote:178e3bbcc3]

    hahaha !!!!
    i don't keep kois bro !!!

    the closest i ever come to kois is when i was fishing for "grass carps" a few yrs back.

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    Re:

    [quote:4e1bfdbdbe="budak"](in the confines of a flat or house, as opposed to an outdoor pond).

    . There are far safer ways (salt, antibiotics) of dealing with disease, and i find that in a healthy planted tank, disease is rarely a problem.[/quote:4e1bfdbdbe]

    hello there budak,

    how is it not safe to do this in the confines of a flat or house ???
    does it emits poisonous fumes ????

    antibiotics - what do u recommend ? type and dosage for a planted tank ?

    thanks.
    mervin

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    PP is a 'mild' poison and should be treated with caution. It also causes horrid stains.

    Please do not add medication to your tank UNLESS so many of the fish are sick that it's not worth treating them in a separate tank. In a healthy planted tank, I find illnesses hardly occur, and fish can often recover on their own.

    An article on its use is here. There used to be a very thorough article link posted in AQ on PP's use and safety, but I can't find it now.

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    Budak,

    I agreed with what you said! In the nature environment, as long as the environment is relatively healthy , say for example a stream with constant water flow, the water condition is usually quite pristine and therefore the fishes in it are generally healthy. Same for our plants, get the plants growing healthy and you have healthy fishes too. Well, healthy plants, healthy fishes! No too way about it!
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    thank you very much for all your replies about keeping the plants and fishes healthy.
    i cannot but agreed with all of you abt healthy plants = to healthy fishes

    don't mean to be rude or offensive but i was just wondering if PP is a option if things go wrong in a est. planted tank.

    don't know abt your tanks and fishes but sickness and diseases do make an appearance in my tanks once in a while and to caught a small apistogramma or tetra in a 5 ft fully planted tank is not exactly a taking walk in a park.

    perhaps my skills in fish and plant keeping is something not to be proud of. therefore, i was just wondering if anyone could advise me on my options.

    thank you
    mervin

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    Re:

    [quote:9ec0489739="budak"]
    An article on its use is here. .[/quote:9ec0489739]

    thank you for the link, very enlightening.

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    Mervin,

    Personally, I would not dose any medication into my planted tank. Personal horror story, my neighbour tried to combat BBA bought algaecide and treated the tank, guess what happened? The water turned into pea soup and most of the inhabitant died.

    The best treatment I say is prevention, you can quarantine fishes before you add them into the main tank. You lower the risk somewhat.


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    PP is very much like H2O2, peroxide and also a lot like bleach methods.
    It's less intense generally at the dosing recommended.

    But all three are very strong oxidizers. Too much= dead fish, fried plants.
    Too little = no effect.

    Alan used this for a dip for BBA awhile back. It works okay.

    But this is not a good method for algae reduction. It's good for a dip etc, but that's about it.

    Some fish don't like PP. You can use it, but beyond a dip or to get rid of anchor worms on laregr scaled fish, Koi, Arowanna's, I think you will not find it that useful.

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    Tom Barr

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    my bba variant is too horrible to mention.. * ie: sp 'horribillus giganticus'

    a) kh = 3
    b) ph = 6.7 (its lights off now and my air pump is running and co2 controller is set for 6.5)

    when lights are on and air pumps are off, ph=6.5 and the plants are bubbling (as much as crypts do bubble)

    fert dosage is on timer as well. (basically ratio of 1 weeks supply of seachem fluorish diluted for 7 days daily dosage / 1 part fluorish to 7 parts water)


    at the current moment:

    NO3=0 (aquarium pharmaceuticals kit, maybe that's the problem?)
    which is fairly odd since I feed enough for my bioload of
    7 juv altums, over 100+ corydoras, 70 odd cardinals, various botias, more than 400 malayan shrimp, 60+ yamato shrimp, danio choprae, danio sp myanmar, 4 ruby barbs)

    then again the fert timer hasn't turned on yet.

    PO4 = 2ppm (sera kit)

    lighting is 2 x 150W MH for a 5 x 2 x 2 ft tank on 8 hr timer
    ---
    in anycase, its not as though the bba is growing fast, but its noticable and attacks old leaves, I'm thinking of one time pp bomb to wipe out most of the algae and their spores...grr.

    maybe a low level dosage to experiment? heh

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