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    Seachem Flourite Gravel or Dennerle ????

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    Greetings all !!!

    i was just wondering if anyone has used these before ?
    would be grateful if you can share your experiences

    I'm asking because i might be doing some rescaping to my existing planted tank and would like to change the gravel.

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    mervin

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    I'm with flourite...

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    Hi peter,

    have u used flourite b4 ???
    pls tell me something abt it.

    wht is the differences btw flourite and flourite red ???

    Wth flourite, do u still add base fert ???

    thanks.

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    Seachem Flourite Gravel or Dennerle ????

    I am with Flourite as well.

    My reasons are pretty simple. With Flourite, you do not need to put base fertilizer and yet Flourite does not disintergrate like soil. With Dennerle, one should used deponit as well. Deponit is expensive as is the Dennerle gravel. Hence, if you are into the hobby for long term, flourite makes the most economic sense (better than soils, or gravel conbine with base fert)

    and since to lay the tank with either flourite or dennerle would cost almost the same, go with flourite.

    The good thing about Dennerle gravel over flourite though is that I find that if you are one who uproot often, you will find that the gravel attaches itself to the roots is you use flourite, so it is very messy at times. But dennerle, somehow, a little shaking and one can uproot any plant really cleanly!
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    Re:

    [quote:85572c64="mervin"]
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    wht is the differences btw flourite and flourite red ???

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    Colour only. I prefer normal Flourite, but I'm using both mixed together which does not look bad at all. Red is too red for my taste.
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    I am using flourite as well.. I tone the redness down by using black sand. Its great except for one problem, I find it difficult to plant very fine and shallow roots plants such as glosso and HC. It is quite sharp, therefore you need to take good care when pushing plants into the substrate and quite pricey if you have a large tank. Other than that its quite good.
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    I do add ground peat and some "mulm"=> the dirt from an established tank that is vacuumed up and settles in the bottom of a bucket after a few minutes.

    I add about 1 handful per sq Ft of tank floor space and about the same volume of wet soupy mulm.

    I do this routine with any substrate, no matter which you choose. Dennerle should be cheaper, not Flourite. Well get the Flourite then.

    You can get Amano like results with the mulm/peat/flourite set up with no break in period.

    Also works well with a non CO2 approach also, buit more soil/peat is added(about a 1/2" of each).

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    Oh yeah... Flourite can scratch glass. Be careful when you move it around in the tank or when you're clearing it out (in the future).
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    Scratched tanks

    Awww... now you put that scratch glass thingy.. I have many scratches... aii..
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    hey !!!
    thanks for all your replies !!!!

    just one thing that got me thinking.......i've been into plants for abt 3 yrs now and all this time i have read and been advised not to used sharp edge gravel for a varity of reasons. eg. roots and stems get cut, apistos like to gobble up gravel and that might also cut them.

    so if floruite has sharp edges....it is not so suitable ?????

    believe flourite has high iron content but what abt other trace elements ???

    there is also another type of gravel which seem to be gaining in popularity in the US. Carrib Sea Eco-Complete.
    has anyone used this b4 ???
    I have not seen it in any of our LFS b4.


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    Lots of ppl in US use Flourite but I don't see any complaints about damaged roots in their forums/mailing lists. I'd be careful about putting substrate foraging fishes like corydoras and loaches though. And I've been cut and pricked by Flourite while handling it.

    The mineral analysis of Flourite and the reason Seachem doesn't print them on the bags, see: http://fins.actwin.com/aquatic-plant.../msg00996.html

    The last time I tried Flourite (without other substrate additives) crypts grew smaller and slower then with other substrates I've tried but Ceratopteris and Lobelia grew mighty fine with great roots. I trying again but this time with Aquatic compost below.
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    I'd like to give Eco-complete a try too.
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    Re:

    [quote:4867643f="vinz"]I'd like to give Eco-complete a try too.[/quote:4867643f]

    hahaha !!!
    do u know where to buy ???

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    [quote:2042a581b3="vinz"]. I trying again but this time with Aquatic compost below.[/quote:2042a581b3]

    me will be doing the same.
    just to be on the safe side.

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    Fluorite and Cories can mix.

    I have over one 100 cories in my tank.

    I don't have many long nosed cories though, (only 2 semiaquilis right now)
    but they are all doing fine (ie: no such thing as worn out barbels, you would think fish with the stupidity to sandpaper off their barbels would long been extinct (ie: natural selection) )

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    where to buy?

    hey guys... can someone pls tell which lfs here sells this substrate?...... (seachem fluorite)

    i was actually looking for this substrate few months back n went to at least 3-4 shops listed here but couldn't find it so i jus assumed it wasn't available here in sg.....

    imagine my surprise when i read quite a no. of people here are actually using it!!~~...


    would greatly appreciate it..... thanks.....

    eddie

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    Got mine from Petmart at serangoon north. See LFS list for address.
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    you can try plantas aquatica as well.

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