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    Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

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    I just saw my sulawesi snail (teenage size) eating my cardinal shrimp alive!!!
    The shrimp seemed to have problem molting.
    It was twiching all over the sand. The snail slowly made it's way to the shrimp and started chewing on the tail!
    I shifted the snail away. Left the poor shrimp alone....
    Then saw a cherry shrimp come over and started munching on the poor shrimp! Chased away the cherry.....
    why the cardinals cannot molt properly???
    Gh 8
    kH 4
    PH 8

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    If a shrimp is dying and quite obviously gone case, normally I will see the others come for the "feast" too.

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    But it was still twiching....legs moving. It was on it's side though.... When I pushed the snail away, the tail portion was 1/2 eaten.....30 secs only!

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    your gh too high comfirm cannot molt properly shrimps need gh 4

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by xconnect. View Post
    your gh too high comfirm cannot molt properly shrimps need gh 4
    The usual 10-series answer is, shrimps needs GH 4 to molt properly. But does this applies to Sulawesi Shrimps too?

    To a certain extent, I do not agree that shrimps can only molt properly in GH 4. It always works in a range. And this is Sulawesi shrimps, which lives in an environment with high GH & KH that runs in tandem. So far, I haven't had any Sulawesi shrimps with molting problems at GH 7-8.

    But of cos, TS can always try to reduce the GH level lower to like 6 for a try?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    The usual 10-series answer is, shrimps needs GH 4 to molt properly. But does this applies to Sulawesi Shrimps too?

    To a certain extent, I do not agree that shrimps can only molt properly in GH 4. It always works in a range. And this is Sulawesi shrimps, which lives in an environment with high GH & KH that runs in tandem. So far, I haven't had any Sulawesi shrimps with molting problems at GH 7-8.

    But of cos, TS can always try to reduce the GH level lower to like 6 for a try?
    Bro but ts's shrimp is cheery shrimp not sulewesi shrimP

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    Er. Cherry like no problem?

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    A thread on Shrimpnow refers to the need for cholesterol to aid in molting, where Sulawesi shrimps are concerned. Perhaps not only cholesterol is needed, but also higher protein. In this case, the diet of the shrimp in v200's tank might be the key. The lakes where Cardinal shrimps come from is high in iron, so that metal might be another crucial element in allowing them to molt properly.
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    Hopefully that (high in iron) is the case as I've had two unexplained deaths this morning. The bodies were half eaten but as far as I could tell they were a mambo bee and a starry night. Somehow I feel sulawesi shrimp like to eat freshly dead stuff, as in the case of their brethren and I've also tried brine shrimp on them before.

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    If it's high iron, does that mean you can actually dose minimal amounts of iron also?
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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by xconnect. View Post
    Bro but ts's shrimp is cheery shrimp not sulewesi shrimP
    er, I have mixed shrimps. Sulawesi and cherry together. cherry doing fine. multiplying. Sulawesi no. cannot molt properly...

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Draka View Post
    Er. Cherry like no problem?
    You are right. Cherry no problem.

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by stormhawk View Post
    A thread on Shrimpnow refers to the need for cholesterol to aid in molting, where Sulawesi shrimps are concerned. Perhaps not only cholesterol is needed, but also higher protein. In this case, the diet of the shrimp in v200's tank might be the key. The lakes where Cardinal shrimps come from is high in iron, so that metal might be another crucial element in allowing them to molt properly.
    I have been feeding them Bio plus,tonic pro and some ocean free shrimp pallets. if need iron, means need to boil organic spinach?

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Draka View Post
    Hopefully that (high in iron) is the case as I've had two unexplained deaths this morning. The bodies were half eaten but as far as I could tell they were a mambo bee and a starry night. Somehow I feel sulawesi shrimp like to eat freshly dead stuff, as in the case of their brethren and I've also tried brine shrimp on them before.
    *sigh* unfortunately for my case, they are the dead stuff....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mincedmeat View Post
    If it's high iron, does that mean you can actually dose minimal amounts of iron also?
    Bro, are your shrimps OK? If they have no issues with molting and surviving, then maintain what you are doing. Though I would like to know if need to dose iron. But mosuea shizhen states it has trace elements, I assume iron should be in it as well right?

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    Only 1 death due to molting problem?

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by oiishi View Post
    Only 1 death due to molting problem?
    Sad to say, almost all wiped out. About 40 pieces over the last few weeks.....
    I think I will need to redo the whole tank.

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by v200 View Post
    *sigh* unfortunately for my case, they are the dead stuff....
    It's ok, I've had quite a few. Surprisingly mostly mambo bee. Don't give up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draka View Post
    It's ok, I've had quite a few. Surprisingly mostly mambo bee. Don't give up!
    touch wood, but my mambos are still OK. Might be my water suitable for mambos while yours is more for cardinals?

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    Re: Sulawesi snail eating my cardinal shrimps....ALIVE!!!

    Haha this "currently stable" parameters were adjusted from water that killed cardinals. Or could be bad batch of cardinals.

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