would this fissidens carpeting technique work for moss?

[papelboyl1]

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/8...rock-or-carpet

mini fissidens are generally hard to come by here in australia and if they are available, expect BIG money (quick look in ebay AU suggest $10 AUD for 6 stalks) for it. So I'm hoping the technique mentioned in the website would work with moss? thank you

[Navanod]

That's a very interesting technique! Nearly fell off my chair when I saw the meat grinder though.
Hmmm...quite alot of hair algae growing as well...some refinement may be in order.

Thanks for sharing this!

[papelboyl1]

That's a very interesting technique! Nearly fell off my chair when I saw the meat grinder though.
Hmmm...quite alot of hair algae growing as well...some refinement may be in order.

Thanks for sharing this!

You're welcome! I suppose you just can just chop them on the chopping board like you're finely chopping onions?

[Aquanoob]

Yes, a very interesting method. I didn't know that the fissiden will root to the rock and substrate so far in days.

[stormhawk]

Takashi Amano showcased this method, in a different form. He made someone chop up the mosses into bits, then he'd rub all the fragments onto the rocks etc. and kept them moist by misting with water. This basically uses the DSM, but for mosses.

papelboyl1, the method will work but I think it is important to choose the right gravel so the moss can creep easily over it. Also, after the initial few days of keeping the tank moist but not filled, it is crucial not to introduce any fish that would disturb the substrate.

[Noobz]

Very interesting and thanks for sharing bro but not sure applicable for all kind of rock or not.

[wei]

would be interesting to try it out on driftwood also..

[SkinHead]

I'm trying it on my gravel

[Patrick76]

Have anyone try this method?

[qngwn]

I have tried this method successfully with quite a number of driftwoods.

fissidens apparently do not root to the surface, but just attach themselves to it.

I chopped the few fissidens that i using a chopper and spread them over my driftwood. For the fissidens to attach themselves to the surface, be it wood rocks, or even soil, i kept the surface moist but using a DSM method, covering the tank with food wrap and still allowing the light to shine through.

Under normal lightning periods, I let the DSM set aside for approximately 1 week. Some might prefer 2 to 3 weeks, but I'm quite impatient. as long as the fissidens attach themselves, that's sufficient for me. after the fissidens have attached themselves to the surface, you can fill the tank with water.

During the transition from emersed to submersed, there were a few fissidens that browned off. however most of the fissidens (around 90% of them) survived the transition and i let them spread through out the whole driftwood.

Of course that will take some time for the whole drift wood to be covered.. Below i have some pictures for your reference.







And this is a picture that i just took after changing the lights today.


Age of this tank is approx 2 months old. the fissidens have covered the driftwood almost 90%, except for those parts that light does not shine on.

[Patrick76]

Thanks! I planned to start HC concurrently.

[Urban Aquaria]

Thanks! I planned to start HC concurrently.

From my experience, HC and Fissidens require slightly different DSM conditions.

HC DSM should ideally be done without cover over the tank, regularly misted sparingly and the soil only just slightly moist (or else mold will tend to grow).

Fissiden DSM should be done with alot of misting and with the tank fully covered to seal in humidity and retain as much moisture as possible (like how qngwn did for his tank). Fissidens need to be constantly moist otherwise they will dry out very quickly and die.

What worked well for my tank with both HC and Fissidens was to do DSM separately for both plants... HC in the open top glass tank with soil substrate, and Fissidens on wood in a clear plastic IKEA container with sealed cover.

[Stradic]

May I know what is DSM?
How and what equipment do you guys use to do misting ?
Thanks

[qngwn]

May I know what is DSM?
How and what equipment do you guys use to do misting ?
Thanks

DSM stands for dry start method.

We do not use any special equipment, just those $2 spraying bottles from daiso or something similar. Those that you use with ironing clothes or those that you use to spray very fine water droplets on the glass surface kind.

Any equipment similar, as long as it does the same thing will do as well.


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[Urban Aquaria]

May I know what is DSM?
How and what equipment do you guys use to do misting ?
Thanks

You can check out the equipment and techniques used for dry start method (DSM) in my thread:

http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ethod-Journal!

[Stradic]

You can check out the equipment and techniques used for dry start method (DSM) in my thread:

http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ethod-Journal!

Many Thanks