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    Question Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    you cant even see inside. Your plants will probably die though, the bubble blocking the light.
    Darn hilarious right? i.e. like a server room that caught fire & is being extinguished with overhead fire control systems. Maybe the (CO2) bubbles will permeate the body of the fauna directly through the skin?!

    That said, I didn't realise a simple change in impeller form factor will equate to such a big difference in how much the water output is being "chopped"...

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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    I don't think someone would connect his co2 tank to that pump. The volume of co2 in his co2 tank might diminish in a day. That pump is connected to a tube which drawn in air at a high rate, a normal co2 tank won't last long.
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    I did, you still have to use a regulator/solenoid on the co2 side. The low pressure from the venturi effect by the pump isn't strong enough to bypass the regulator. You have to set lower co2 flow rate than norm.

    Such setup I used it to distribute co2 to high volume of water. You may need to modify for adaptation to very small volumes.

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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Hi fellows, a couple of quick questions:

    Qn1: for the turning knob at the top of the CO2 cylinder, is there meant to be significant play/allowance (not as much as a quarter turn,but say, 1/10 of a full circle), even when the cylinder is supposed to be "off"/sealed?

    Qn2: is there any way to take out the entire turning knob (from the cylinder) when we are dealing with a full cylinder (it's full; but not in use; just on standby)?

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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    I'm not 100% sure about your question. However, I normally fully open the main valve. There is no possibility that the entire know come off. I'm sure you will need spanner to take it out, so unless you have very-very strong hand
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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    I'm not 100% sure about your question...
    Okay, perhaps a video will illustrate my question better:



    is the black knob suppose to have this amount of play/allowance when the cylinder's not deployed for active use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    ...There is no possibility that the entire know come off. I'm sure you will need spanner to take it out, so unless you have very-very strong hand
    So, with respect to the video, is it possible to extract the black turning knob (less the golden parts) out (& safely put it back again later)?

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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    o yes, I believe it is by design for safety so that you not accidentally turn.

    I never try to take out the knob but I suppose it is possible by unscrewing the screw at the center
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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    ...I never try to take out the knob but I suppose it is possible by unscrewing the screw at the center
    Actually I asked because I wanted to remove the knob for painting/spraying. I saw another Malaysian forummer did it but I'm unsure if he unscrew it when his cylinder is completely empty or when there's still some CO2 left in the cylinder. I pretty much wouldn't like an uncontrolled release of gas in my room if I can help it, haha!

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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Empty probably safer
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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Btw, do we fill up the bubble counter with plain water or something more viscous, i.e. glycerine, or mineral oil?

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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Plain 'ol tap water will do just fine
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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ralliart12 View Post
    Btw, do we fill up the bubble counter with plain water or something more viscous, i.e. glycerine, or mineral oil?
    some westerner did that, its easier to count when you injects a lots. With water, maximum you can count probably 5bps
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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    ...its easier to count when you injects a lots...
    As in when I inject a lot of water or a lot of glycerine/mineral oil?

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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Alamak... why would you want to inject glycerine???!!! What Robert is saying, is that when you inject LOTS of COČ, the viscosity of glycerine slows down the ascending speed of bubbles reaching the surface, hence allowing the user to count beyond 5bps.

    But.... if you really feel like injecting glycerine, report back to tell us how your plants like it!!
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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    OK I should say .....its easier to count when you injects a lots of CO2...
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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    OK I should say .....its easier to count when you injects a lots of CO2...
    Like above 5bps?

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    Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonWill View Post
    ....hence allowing the user to count beyond 5bps
    What do you think we meant?
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    Question Re: Any equipment to inject CO2 into the tank without using diffusers?

    Hi fellows, I have some further questions:

    Q1: can check valves & inline diffusers (atomizers) be orientated horizontally instead of their vertical orientation (as shown in many photos)? Will their functionality be affected?

    Qn2: will it matter if the tubing between the various CO2 equipment is too short, e.g. between bubble counter & regulator, between the check valve & the diffuser, etc.? As I understand for filtration, shorter filter hoses (& lesser bends, for that matter) equals to improved flow-rate, but I'm unsure if the same concept can be applied to CO2 injection? I'm not looking to increase the "flow-rate" of the gas though, but just wondering about negative impact.

    Q3: For check valves like the ADA cabochon ruby, how do we determine which end faces the water source versus which end faces the gas supply?

    Q4: For the "CAL Double Counter" (image below), since both ends are open, how do I actually fill it up with liquid during setup?


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