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    Philip LED tube

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    Found this on Philips website, currently they are for commerical use, it will be great if the tech is develop for aquatic use.

    Copyright picture from philip
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    http://www.ecat.lighting.philips.com...iew#t=overview

    Pros if exist
    1.We do not have to buy a complete new set of light set (currently uses T8 caps, hopefully they will market T5 versions)
    2.Do not have to worry about LED bulb dying out and hence have to change a new set of light.
    3. Usual Benefits of LED, energy saving, cooler temperture etc.

    Just for sharing only.
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    Re: Philip LED tube

    they actually have it for aquatic plant growth but its not philips.
    I used this for my tank, been using this since august.
    So far so good the only problem is the driver which is inside the casing
    out of 10pcs i have, 4 had failed due to the driver.
    .Attachment 34028
    other than that it is good.

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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Hey zero can share where you got your light set and price?

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    Re: Philip LED tube

    i got it from hongkong.
    price wise not really sure i think its around 35sgd.
    shipping price is not included. My friend work there
    and give me the lobang.
    I initially bought 20pcs,i sold 10pcs to my friends.
    i should keep it instead,regret doing that. Now only left with 6pcs.
    Out of the 10 i sold 3 are faulty...
    you can check my post here
    http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...DIY-led-lights

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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Hi zero,

    Thanks for sharing. Since i seldom hear of the led tube been mention, i though it is not available.
    Haha....

    Since you mention the failure rate is high, my guess is the technology has yet mature. Do you happen to know how long it is already available? Philips should have a much much low failure rate thou, since it is well established brand.

    Plus $35 seems to be expensive. The next time i visit hongkong, i will definiately keep a lookout for the tube.
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    Re: Philip LED tube

    I think faiure rate is high because of shipping handling,
    the boxes get stack and throw all over the place.
    Led tubes are sensitives especially if you drop them.
    To me 35sgd is ok as long as it can last for at least 2years,
    not 2 months...but it all depend on how the shiptment being handle.
    Anyway so for so good...

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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Nice and cheap DIY

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    Philip LED tube

    You can readily buy these led t5 tube along the lightings shop along Jalan besar and at the lightings shop in sim lim tower 3rd floor. However, the tube are permanently housed in a housing, therefore, when it spoils you have to change the whole thing.

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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Any idea if those will work for planted tanks?

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    Re: Philip LED tube

    @5star im sure there is, you should ask them for the lights spec.
    @seudzar Mine is the 3 pin connector to the led so my driver is in the casing itself
    and it is a hassle to remove and repair it.
    but there is also the ones like bennyc post pic,personally i feel that is even better
    because the driver is not in the tube but is in another casing that hold the tube.
    So if there is a faulty driver all you need is to change the casing.
    Unlike my case it could be either one,led or driver until you troubleshoot it then
    you know which is faulty.

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    Re: Philip LED tube

    @seudzar, once i have more time, i will visit the places you mention. But i think the whole point is to have separate led tube and light set.
    Even though, LED is known to have "long" operation hours. They do slow burn out or lose their brightness. And when they do, it is a waste to throw the whole set away. I believe to LED users like zerofighter bro, it is frustrating to have eg. 20 LED nodes in the strip and within 5 have die and the rest is still working. Now, you are caught in the situation of whether to buy a new set or make do with the loss in brightness.

    I am not a LED hater in fact I do see the huge potential in LED. The thing being LED is still far from perfect and the room for improvement is still there.

    By the way, in Philips catalog, one of the feature is embedded electric driver. Not very sure if it is the same as what zerofighter mentioned. I know nuts about electrice stuff. HaHaha.
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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Hi Guys

    theres an alternative to Philips LED tubes

    You can use LED strips to replace them.

    They are available from 2700 K colour temperature to 12000K

    see here for more details

    http://arofanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500030

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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Quote Originally Posted by 5stars View Post
    Any idea if those will work for planted tanks?
    Currently, T5 users have favor 6500k bulbs. I believe if the LED tube is in the 6500k range, it should work. (Difficult to ask the uncle if the LED is for aquascape use, he will just say don't know or bluff you into buying, -> try and get back your money back then )
    However, if the LED is developed for aquascaping use, it will be better since LED can be manufacture to target certain spectrum, used by plants, and even better if the LED is designed in such a way the spectrum is target at plants and not algae.
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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Quote Originally Posted by bennyc View Post
    Currently, T5 users have favor 6500k bulbs. I believe if the LED tube is in the 6500k range, it should work. (Difficult to ask the uncle if the LED is for aquascape use, he will just say don't know or bluff you into buying, -> try and get back your money back then )
    However, if the LED is developed for aquascaping use, it will be better since LED can be manufacture to target certain spectrum, used by plants, and even better if the LED is designed in such a way the spectrum is target at plants and not algae.
    Hi Benny,

    If the spectrum is targeted at plants, algae will also grow. they are in the same spectrum for photosynthesis.

    There are LED products for aquascape use.
    Alternatively, also can custom make.

    Not expensive at all.
    Can see my link above to check out how to make 1.
    Check out the last few pages of the link.
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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Bro leoshawn, you are engineer. Haha. No wonder so hands on. Thanks for sharing, I don't know Philips have LED strip for growing crops.

    I agree with you that algae and plants do use the same spectrum for photosynthesis. From what I read, blue spectrum encourages algae growth, so the LED can be design to have less blue spectrum and more on the red spectrum. But I am still a planted tank newbie, I maybe wrong.

    Seen your 5ft LED light set. very nice but why not space your strip apart more? so the tank is more evenly luminate ( singaporean really like to complain, always have something to say. Haha, so let me apologise first since yours is done beautifully already, just sharing my opinion)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennyc View Post
    Bro leoshawn, you are engineer. Haha. No wonder so hands on. Thanks for sharing, I don't know Philips have LED strip for growing crops.

    I agree with you that algae and plants do use the same spectrum for photosynthesis. From what I read, blue spectrum encourages algae growth, so the LED can be design to have less blue spectrum and more on the red spectrum. But I am still a planted tank newbie, I maybe wrong.

    Seen your 5ft LED light set. very nice but why not space your strip apart more? so the tank is more evenly luminate ( singaporean really like to complain, always have something to say. Haha, so let me apologise first since yours is done beautifully already, just sharing my opinion)

    LOL, i Did think of that, but I like to pack more into smaller more compact spaces.
    if i make 2 of those LED light sets, can double up the power to 60W

    it will have the capability of 150W Fluorescent light.
    Now at 28W, it is already at the 70W fluorescent lighting spec already.

    from the front view of my tank, it is quite evenly spread already.
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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Hi leoshawn83,
    For the LED strips, do you cut them into smaller length and place them row by row ?
    And you join them using the pin connectors ?
    I have bought the 5050 that comes with the adapter... but have not start doing anything yet.
    Still thinking what type of cover to get...
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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Hi bravo,
    You bought a whole reel of led strips?
    Yes, you need to cut to length and join them at the ends.
    There are 2 types of covers, aluminum or plastic. 5050 led,I recommend aluminum,.as the led is hotter than 3528 .
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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Nice DIY.
    I have seen your post.
    IMHO,It would be better if you can install computer fans with the DIY leds.

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    Re: Philip LED tube

    Quote Originally Posted by leoshawn83 View Post
    Hi bravo,
    You bought a whole reel of led strips?
    Yes, you need to cut to length and join them at the ends.
    There are 2 types of covers, aluminum or plastic. 5050 led,I recommend aluminum,.as the led is hotter than 3528 .
    Yes i bought the 5 meters 5050 type... it is stated as waterproof but i do not think can submerge.
    The Ikea LED i bought is not hot to touch, but this one i am not sure yet.
    Only switch on for a while to test... very very bright... but not sure about the Lumens and PAR value...
    Maybe i will go get the plastic type so that it is not so hot to touch... also find something to join them when cut... does SimLim Tower sells the parts that join them ?
    Truth lasts for Eternality and lies are just waiting to be discovered.

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