New 2x1x1.5 Tank

[bravobb]

After flooding, one or two plants took off... and i managed to bring them back to the ground.
Lights are out now, will check tomorrow and see what is the situation.

[bravobb]

Rear left, that one cannot emerse grow.
The one with the more shiny leaf and pretty much standing is Barcopa. can emerse + likes to grow upward when submersed. Emersed growth when too high it will tilt and grow slanted, cut it before it does.
The HC, can be planted smaller clumps. Search the fourm, should have somemore examples. It will help spreading and easier to spot growth.

i think i see microsword. that one can emerse, very good plant.. correct lighting it will grow pretty fast.

I see you might flood, lets say 4-6 weeks down. (I am guessing) as one bro who over do his DSM said, you flood when you see rooted and spreading well. (ok he said aggressively.)

Noted all comments.
For HC, i realised i do not have anymore space to plant them so i cluster them together on purpose.
They took off when i floor, so i can only think of using stone to press them now and also use my hand to press the HC edges to the soil. Hope they will be rooted soon.

I only worry about algae and mosquito breeding since there is no water current.

[bravobb]

is that some stem plants you trying to growing DSM method? cannot see properly from your shot.

What do you mean stem plants ?
I will take few more closer shots tomorrow when the lights are on.

[felix_fx2]

is that some stem plants you trying to growing DSM method? cannot see properly from your shot.

bacopa, and rolata. think got one more ... not all can some will die off in 2-3 days..

[felix_fx2]

Noted all comments.
For HC, i realised i do not have anymore space to plant them so i cluster them together on purpose.
They took off when i floor, so i can only think of using stone to press them now and also use my hand to press the HC edges to the soil. Hope they will be rooted soon.

I only worry about algae and mosquito breeding since there is no water current.

You no pincer? can semi bury most of the hc leaving some leaf exposed also can ..

I already kill 1 larve yesterday in mine. i hunt them and other insects more then i think algae will not come in mine so soon....

[felix_fx2]

Noted all comments.
For HC, i realised i do not have anymore space to plant them so i cluster them together on purpose.
They took off when i floor, so i can only think of using stone to press them now and also use my hand to press the HC edges to the soil. Hope they will be rooted soon.

I only worry about algae and mosquito breeding since there is no water current.

You no pincer? can semi bury most of the hc leaving some leaf exposed also can ..

I already kill 1 larve yesterday in mine. i hunt them and other insects more then i think algae will not come in mine so soon....

[diazman]

What do you mean stem plants ?
I will take few more closer shots tomorrow when the lights are on.

What i meant was, i saw you plant some other plants other than HC and hairgrass , like felix said, i saw the bacopa inside. haha

bacopa, and rolata. think got one more ... not all can some will die off in 2-3 days..

ah thanks boss for the id, thought so i saw a bacopa.

[bravobb]

Day2: More pictures (i have reduced the photo size to 30% instead of 20% which i normally do. This should enable all to see the details better)

[Urban Aquaria]

Looks like i'm too late to post my observations 'cos you already flooded the tank... anyways if you are going to do another DSM again in the future, try not to over-saturate the substrate until there are puddles and areas submerged, that will create stagnant pools which tend to encourage mold. From my experience, the substrate should just be slightly moist (soil look abit shiny can already), not underwater. The top layer of the soil can even dry out abit as long as the mid and bottom layer of the soil still has moisture, that would be the ideal conditions for DSM.

If you check out gardening guides, they usually advise not to over-water plants too. Although these are plants that can be grown underwater, but during the DSM stage, you should treat them like plants in an outdoor garden.

In addition, during the first 1-2 weeks of DSM, it is normal to see an initial dying off and browning of the plants as they are adapting to the newly planted conditions and are still in the process of establishing roots, usually only after the 3rd or 4th week when you see their roots establish, then they will really flourish and spread very quickly.

For DSM, its just a matter of taking advantage of long and intense light durations (without the issues of algae or Co2), misting a few times a day and basically just waiting patiently for the plants to establish and spread well before flooding.

[bravobb]

Day3

I know i am too impatient... but i very much worry about mosquito breeding...
So, i introduce 2 guppies and 5 Fire shrimp.

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Centre

[bravobb]

Notice a few plants dying off at the back.

[mincedmeat]

You could have bought some cheap feeder fish to put into the tank first. I would think your shrimps might not survive for very long but then again, it might be prove me wrong

[bravobb]

You could have bought some cheap feeder fish to put into the tank first. I would think your shrimps might not survive for very long but then again, it might be prove me wrong

I thought by mixing my existing fish tank with the tap water for topping up, the cycling will be faster.
I should have tested the water parameter.
I notice one of the shrimp with body full of eggs like... not sure it is pregnant or not.. just now collapsed ... then after few minutes... start to jump here and there.
Then rest at one place and jump again... it keeps jumping and stay motionless from time to time.....
I think if i take it out and move to another tank, it may die even faster....
How to tell what is the tank really for shrimp .... ?

[bravobb]

Can see a few red shrimp collapsing.. as in like dying.
They still jump around though.
I know the tank cycling is not complete, so i can only think of topping up more of my other fish tank water(actually is the sump tank water) to here, bringing the ratio between fish tank water and tapwater higher.
Now the tank is around 50% full of water.
The lights are also out now, so hopefully tomorrow i will have some survivors.

[milk_vanilla]

i found otto is quite hardy creatures, i drop 3-4 of ottos after it passed 7 days after flooded my 3ft.

ammonia still on the peak level that day.

they were very hard worker and still survive till now.

I dropped amano shrimp on the 2nd or third week ( cant remember exactly ), ammonia were slightly reduce since cycle is underway.

Then follow by cherries, once it's fully cycle.

[bravobb]

Day4

Top up water to full tank using sump tank water.
Saw 2 red shrimp still moving while topping up water, the rest look like gone.
After finish water top up, one of the moving one seems to be down also.



Activated tank fan and small filter.

[bravobb]

Day5:

The 5th shrimp is also gone. It has gone motionless.
Left the pair of guppies now.

[milk_vanilla]

I guess either ammonia reason or something wrong with your top up water, maybe too hard or copper thingy. U did Top up with tap water, aren't you?

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[Urban Aquaria]

Looks like your tank is going through the usual massive ammonia/nitrite/nitrate spikes during the tank cycling process... using mature filter media helps to speed up the process but there will still be large spikes occuring.

I guess your cherry shrimp took the brunt of the increased toxic levels.

Btw, do you have a freshwater test kit? It'll be good to test the water parameters and see what stage of the cycling process your tank is in at this moment.

[felix_fx2]

ammonia, nitrate issue.

fish tolerance higher, that is why still alive.

wait for things to settle down, consider the tank as in normal cycling. dont add shrimps for the next 1-2 weeks at least.

if you have mature media, or you can obtain it from someone. squeeze some of that good stuff in the water.

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