Rainbow Fishes you have kept

[MartialTheory]

Hi I was just curious about what kinds of rainbow fishes you guys have kept. I was always jealous of how in Asia you guys have access to a lot more rare stuff than America. I personally have kept Iriatherina werneri and pseudomugil furcatus. I plan on getting more species since they are truly beautiful fish.

What rainbow fishes do you guys keep?

[stormhawk]

I used to keep Melanotaenia praecox, Pseudomugil gertrudae, Pseudomugil furcatus, Pseudomugil sp. "Red Neon", Iriatherina werneri and Marosatherina ladigesi at various times in the past.

Most commonly seen here in Singapore are the following species - Glossolepis incisus, Melanotaenia boesemani, Melanotaenia praecox, Iriatherina werneri, Marosatherina ladigesi, Pseudomugil furcatus. There are balloon forms of G. incisus and M. boesemani too, which happen to be fairly common at the LFS these days.

We had a shipment of Pseudomugil ivantsoffi and some other rainbows last year too, which were pretty uncommon. One was labelled as Melanotaenia cf. ogilbyi I think.

[ajudec]

Hi I was just curious about what kinds of rainbow fishes you guys have kept. I was always jealous of how in Asia you guys have access to a lot more rare stuff than America. I personally have kept Iriatherina werneri and pseudomugil furcatus. I plan on getting more species since they are truly beautiful fish.

What rainbow fishes do you guys keep?

hi bro,

like you, i'm currently keeping

Iriatherina werneri
Pseudomugil furcatus

even after so long, everytime i watch them, i am still awed by their beauty, color, and unique finnages

are they other small rainbow fish types such as these that i can comm with the 2 species?

[stormhawk]

Pseudomugil gertrudae and Marosatherina ladigesi, if you can find those. They comm well together with ricefishes too, like Oryzias woworae and cf. woworae.

[ajudec]

Pseudomugil gertrudae and Marosatherina ladigesi, if you can find those. They comm well together with ricefishes too, like Oryzias woworae and cf. woworae.

Wow great thanks. I think they look great and will add even more color. love their sizes too.

But are they sold in singapore?


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[stormhawk]

Yes they are. M. ladigesi occasionally appears for sale at the LFSes. Last place I saw them was at C328 but that was more than a month ago. I figure the farms might have it every now and then. Ps. gertrudae, I last saw at GC, a few pairs. O. woworae and O. cf. woworae, I don't remember but I think GC has them too. They breed like rabbits in the right conditions, except the fry are small and need green water or infusoria for the first week or so.

[RonWill]

I used to keep ... Pseudomugil sp. "Red Neon" ...

Now believed to be classified as Pseudomugil iriani. IMHO, the iriani looks much nicer than P. gertrudae, even if fry of both species grow out pathetically slow.

My group of Pseudomugil ivantsoffi were breeding well when everything collapsed without warning and I lost all of them...drats... these were already nicely conditioned.

GC unker has Oryzias woworae in one of his tanks. Could be an entire captive breed lot since there are varying sizes.

[stormhawk]

According to Adrian Tappin, the name Pseudomugil iriani, is not a valid scientific name. The "Red Neon" is tentatively Pseudomugil cf. paskai or just sp. "Red Neon" until a formal description is published. It is proven however that genetically, it is a new species, related to both gertrudae and paskai. Well someone up north will be sad to hear the news regarding the ivantsoffi.

http://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/vi...p=24664#p24664
http://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/vi...p=23988#p23988

I reckon the "iriani" bit is just one of the many trade names for this particular beauty. A related "species" or perhaps geographical form of this "Red Neon" is in the link below:

http://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/vi...hp?f=80&t=2971

More poison for you Ron?

[ajudec]

Yes they are. M. ladigesi occasionally appears for sale at the LFSes. Last place I saw them was at C328 but that was more than a month ago. I figure the farms might have it every now and then. Ps. gertrudae, I last saw at GC, a few pairs. O. woworae and O. cf. woworae, I don't remember but I think GC has them too. They breed like rabbits in the right conditions, except the fry are small and need green water or infusoria for the first week or so.

Thanks for the details. Just to check, GC is green chapter?



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[ajudec]

According to Adrian Tappin, the name Pseudomugil iriani, is not a valid scientific name. The "Red Neon" is tentatively Pseudomugil cf. paskai or just sp. "Red Neon" until a formal description is published. It is proven however that genetically, it is a new species, related to both gertrudae and paskai. Well someone up north will be sad to hear the news regarding the ivantsoffi.

http://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/vi...p=24664#p24664
http://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/vi...p=23988#p23988

I reckon the "iriani" bit is just one of the many trade names for this particular beauty. A related "species" or perhaps geographical form of this "Red Neon" is in the link below:

http://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/vi...hp?f=80&t=2971

More poison for you Ron?

Wooow I have just been poisoned by the red neons in the second link. Amazing. Need to get these too lol


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[stormhawk]

ajudec, yes GC is Green Chapter. As for the Red Neon, they are available at GC as well. I was there just before CNY so if they haven't sold out yet, they should still be there. From time to time they may appear at other LFSes too as a seasonal import.

[ajudec]

ajudec, yes GC is Green Chapter. As for the Red Neon, they are available at GC as well. I was there just before CNY so if they haven't sold out yet, they should still be there. From time to time they may appear at other LFSes too as a seasonal import.

Once again, thank you bro

Hope to get my hands on them soon


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[stormhawk]

Good luck. I'd advise you to give the shop a call before going down, just in case. Many other Rainbows out there but sadly they are not well represented here. For example, Pseudomugil signifer. Common elsewhere but not here. Some of the other species barely make it to our LFSes. Try looking for the Bedotia species too. They are East African relatives to the Rainbowfishes of Papua New Guinea and Australia.

[ajudec]

Good luck. I'd advise you to give the shop a call before going down, just in case. Many other Rainbows out there but sadly they are not well represented here. For example, Pseudomugil signifer. Common elsewhere but not here. Some of the other species barely make it to our LFSes. Try looking for the Bedotia species too. They are East African relatives to the Rainbowfishes of Papua New Guinea and Australia.

WOAH man signifer is awesome to the max! any countries we could import in from? most of my fishes are imported from thailand but i don't think they have much rainbow fishes eh?

[RonWill]

According to Adrian Tappin, the name Pseudomugil iriani, is not a valid scientific name. The "Red Neon" is tentatively Pseudomugil cf. paskai or just sp. "Red Neon"

Sigh... guess I should tell unker to re-label the tank again!! And ya, before I forget, someone already reserved and paid for a tankful of Oryzias woworae but the "Red Neon" are still available.

More poison? I guess you can overdose me on Pseudomugil signifer... How?

[bennyc]

Very good poison introduction, stormhawk bro! Love the "blue neon". i purpose we do not see them locally?

[MartialTheory]

Wow you guys have quite a nice variety. I know a few rainbow fish keepers here who have some amazing collections but one of which I almost never seen is Rhadinocentrus ornatus. Any chance any of you guys ever came across it?

[Draka]

And ya, before I forget, someone already reserved and paid for a tankful of Oryzias woworae but the "Red Neon" are still available.

Wow that's fast! Must have been because of this thread

[stormhawk]

@Martial, Rhadinocentrus should be available among specialist keepers. These two guys in the US should have the biggest collections of Rainbows - Chuck Nishihira (manuran) and Gary Lange. You might have to Google for their info. Rhadinocentrus is not available here in Singapore since any native Australian fish are hard to come by these days. What we get are usually farm-bred fish. If you ask me, the Europeans and in particular the Germans, would have the largest collections available to choose from. My friend who returned from Germany after a long residency there spoke about how the country was a pet paradise and a fishkeeper would go nuts over the availability of several hard to find species of any family.

@ajudec, unfortunately, importation of Ps. signifer is dependent on the suppliers elsewhere and whether the importing farms here will even order these fish in. You can ask at the farms if you wish. I remember seeing it back in the late 80s to 90s then gone. These days even finding Ps. gertrudae can be hard, and I mean nice ones.

@bennyc, I have no idea for the Blue Neon. They are supposedly a different species to the Red Neon. Keep an eye out at places like C328, Y618, GC etc. If the farms have oddballs they'll appear there. Sometime last year, the first Red Neons appeared together with 2 other rainbows. I only got to see the Melanotaenia cf. ogilbyi but being in the plastic bag and stressed out, the colors were faded. The name cf. ogilbyi was on the bag but whether they are actually that species, I am not sure.

AFAIK, the importation of those newer rainbows and blue eyes was part of a big shipment that went out to Singapore, Hong Kong and elsewhere in Europe, because these fishes appeared all over the world in a flash. I believe the Red Neon is being farm bred in Thailand and Indonesia right now and the other rainbows should be too.

[RonWill]

Wow that's fast!

Not sure what others are cooking but yea, selling a tankful of O. woworae is not a norm. Perhaps it was a known breeding group or maybe because they're all fat fat... unker & I won't know.

Blue Neon, Red Neon... I bought both (had an itch to scratch) and they're the same lah. Different suppliers go with different names to make the market more interesting.