Bought 4 Pseudepiplatys annulatus (clown killies) and 1 missing

[freshfish]

i dont know what happend , bought 4 clown killies put them in my tank and now is missing one , what could have happened anyone can shed some light on my missing killie please ? thanks

[mozaqua]

Sounds like he jumped! Killies can jump very high, and some more than others.
Try keeping the tanks covered with something, or grow some duckweed on the water. Duckweed helps for most Nothobranchius sp., but others will jump even if there are floating plants. A tight fitting lid is a must for the very jumpy types.

[freshfish]

thats really weird , i can't even find his body anywhere

[benny]

I used to keep this species as well. They are jumpers and very often, I can't find them in my tanks too. Keep plenty of floating plants if you want to minimize chances of them jumping.

Cheers,

[freshfish]

thanks benny , feel really sad man ... just 2nd day only and this sigh

[StanChung]

It's Benny's avatar.

[Jungle-mania]

I used to keep alot of them, about 100 odd over 4 years and many died for some reaso that eluded me. ifound out that they are very sensitive to water parameters and quality, what I did was very unorthodox, I used to change the water the day prior introducing them into the tank to ensure better water quality. They are also prone to bacterial infection, so avoid feeding them live food.

[benny]

These are actually one of the first few fishes that I bought when I restarted the hobby in 2002. Really love their coloration and I thought rocket panchax is such a suitable name for them.

Cheers,

[freshfish]

i feed all my fishes live brine shrimp , i guess thats ok ?

[CM Media]

I used to keep alot of them, about 100 odd over 4 years and many died for some reaso that eluded me. ifound out that they are very sensitive to water parameters and quality, what I did was very unorthodox, I used to change the water the day prior introducing them into the tank to ensure better water quality. They are also prone to bacterial infection, so avoid feeding them live food.

I still think live food is the best for all types of killifish. Brine shrimp is a good source of food for P. annulatus but I still perfer to feed the adult fish with grindal worms.

Currently, I've 3 cultures running to satisfy my 2 tanks of around 50 young fishes.

Au SL

[keehoe]

i feed all my fishes live brine shrimp , i guess thats ok ?

If you have been doing that for sometime. Check to make sure your tank doesn't have hydra.
Annulatus are very sensitive to water changes. They are also very timid. They can jump high and far.

I once found a killie (Rivulus) ended up in another tank that it was not suppose to be there. That was my crystal red shrimp tank. It has a rather expensive dinner that day. The crystal red tank was at the bottom tier of the rivulus tank on top of it. In 3 tier, 3 partition setup.

All tank has cover but with tiny gap for air line to go in to operate the sponge filter. Water surface to lid is about 8-10 inches feet.

[gabrie]

what do you by hydra??

[mozaqua]

Brine shrimp do not carry hydra!
Hydra is freshwater only, can not survive in saltwater for very long (those are the cousins of hydra anemones )

You can get hydra and other pest from live food from ponds like daphnia/ monia, and other worms since they live in the same water.

I would say brine shrimp are a very safe food, and easy to culture too!
If you are really paranoid make your own culture and only use it.
I feed all my killies brine shrimp every day! I use my own culture and buy some extra from a good source when mine gets low.

Regards,

[keehoe]

Brine shrimp do not carry hydra!
Hydra is freshwater only, can not survive in saltwater for very long (those are the cousins of hydra anemones )

You can get hydra and other pest from live food from ponds like daphnia/ monia, and other worms since they live in the same water.

I would say brine shrimp are a very safe food, and easy to culture too!
If you are really paranoid make your own culture and only use it.
I feed all my killies brine shrimp every day! I use my own culture and buy some extra from a good source when mine gets low.

Regards,

I used to keep big can of brine shrimp cyst and hatch baby brine shrimp to feed killie fry.
I ever had hydra show itself in fry tray that were feed regular with baby brine shrimp.

[mozaqua]

Hydra are typically hitchhikers on plants or moss. Feeding newly hatched brine shrimp will feed any hydra currently present in your water. This will cause a population boom of the hydra, since they have plenty to eat they reproduce quickly. This may be why you have seen hydra appear after feeding the brineshrimp.
When they have nothing to eat their numbers will go down quite a bit, until you don't see them (this does not mean they are gone!) Some times I can see the small green hydra in my shrimp tank, then a couple weeks later they disappear. This is probably due to a pulsing cycle of zoo-plankton.

Here is a trick I have used for killi fry:
Take the moss you will use for the fry and soak it in soda water (club soda) overnight, then rinse in tap water. This usually kills pest before they have a chance to harm your fry. Once your moss is clean add it to a clean dry fry tank and add pure freshwater. Let it sit in the tank for about two weeks, by then you should have some zoo-plankton but no hydra
Never use water from a tank with hydra, or one that had hydra in the past.
Also remember that hydra can not survive if it has been dried out completely, but other zooplankton can because the cyst will hatch and feed your fry.

Hope this is helpful for you.

Regards,

[RonWill]

...bought 4 clown killies put them in my tank and now is missing one , what could have happened anyone can shed some light on my missing killie please ?

Freshfish,
Even though I don't have many killifishes now, the Pseudepiplatys annulatus is still my favorite and they are excellent jumpers, as are most killies. Your MIA'ed annulatus (abbreviation = ANN) is likely to have dried up on the floor and got carried away by the ants. This jumping habit can be minimized when you can provide a secure environment for them by adding lots of floating plants (between 80~90% surface coverage with Salvinia natans or Frogbits).

ANNs are very peaceful killies, flaring only another male or during courtship, but such encounters are mostly showy, never fatal. Space permitting, it is best to keep them in a specie-dedicated tank. If not, try to avoid adding aggressive tankmates.

Newcomers wanting to breed these little jewels can look through some of the posts here.

[Jungle-mania]

Watch the intact of brine shrimp, despite their voracious attack on the brine shrimps, it is not really nutricious enough for their daily intake. Best to mix dried granules and baby brine shrimps. With the reduction in their nutrients, you will know what that leads next to..

[gabrie]

Hi Ron ,

I got a few ANN and if lucky may want to breed them... But i was unable to open your link... can you guide me where to get the "posts" ?

Thanks

Gabrie

[RonWill]

Gabrie, I'm not sure what happened to the linking but do this instead. Go to the Killifish sub-forum and while in there, do a "search this forum" with the text "breeding annulatus". That ought to return the relevant hits.

There might be cross-references when discussions sway but in any case, ask when in doubt.

[freshfish]

i found one of the bodies , dried up on the floor

so sad