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Thread: Danio margaritatus (formerly known as Celestichthys margaritatus)

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    Sad, real sad to find that in our quest for aquatic vanity, we going to wipe a new species of fish we just knew.

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    Good info ,
    It's now Celestial Pearl Danio -Celestichthys margaritatus.
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    Article on the fish in National Geographic online: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...-new-fish.html

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    and to think that a major driving force of the craze was the superb macro photography done on the fish by Kamphol, the guy who contributed the photographs in the description papers.

    power!
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    So...aquatic photography can be a double edge sword.... shame...

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    "When there is a demand, the killing will go on"

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    Still it was better to be discovered and known, now it has a name so actions CAN happen. There several more endemic species living sympatrically which would have simply disappeared when their habitat is developed.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy View Post
    There several more endemic species living sympatrically which would have simply disappeared when their habitat is developed.
    Waiting for the Yunnanilus sp. paper, I presume someone is looking into that.

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    I haven't heard of it yet. not pretty enough fish.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Aiyo, why like that... waiting so long in my tank for me to get to know them leh...

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    Celestial Pearl Danio Forum

    Edit: I have moved your posts to the Aquatalk section since the posts look as if to just promote the website.
    Last edited by Quixotic; 13th Apr 2007 at 13:26.

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    A normal healthy galaxy do they swim with it's body slightly humpy and tail close? or should the body be straight and taill wide open into a fan shape?

    cause today i saw some at y628 the body looks humpy and tail close so i dare not buy.

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    i m quite a fan of galaxy. Y618 arent the only aquarium selling galaxies that have the same issue. Some galaxies that are on sale at c328 and yunfeng do have the same problem and chose a couple from C328. After conditioning for 2 days they are back to normal. So in my opinion, its quite natural for newly arrived galaxies in aquariums

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    Seems like this fish is under going another genus change.

    Article from PFK:
    Scientists have suggested changing the scientific name of the Celestial Pearl danio to Danio margaritatus, after further study suggested it did not warrant a genus of its own, writes Matt Clarke.

    The Celestial Pearl danio, was named Celestichthys margaritatus by taxonomist Tyson Roberts in February 2007, just seven months after it was first discovered in a remote wetland area of Myanmar.

    Roberts claimed that the species, which was initially sold in the trade under the name Microrasbora sp. "Galaxy", was so different to other members of the Danio genus that it warranted a genus of its own, so Roberts erected the Celestichthys genus for the new fish.

    However, research published today by Kevin Conway, Wei-Jen Chen and Professor Richard Mayden of Saint Louis University provides evidence to suggest that Roberts' original description contained some inaccuracies.

    The scientists believe that the tiny fish would actually be better placed in the Danio genus and not in Celestichthys:

    "Though accepting a broader concept of Celestichthys (including D. erythromicron) as the sister group to Danio could be considered a feasible option, we feel that this approach would only unnecessarily inflate the number of generic names within Cyprinidae.

    "We therefore place Celestichthys in the synonymy of Danio," the authors said.

    Bones and DNA

    Conway, Chen and Mayden undertook a detailed analysis of the bones of C. margaritatus - something absent from Roberts' original description of the fish - and compared its bone structures to those of a number of related fishes.

    They also performed an additional molecular study, based on the RAG1 gene, and studied its presence in 31 rasborine fishes, including five species of Danio, in order to determine the phylogenetic position of Celestichthys alongside its relatives.

    The combined results provide strong evidence to suggest that C. margaritatus is a close relative of Danio erythromicron.

    This similarity is something that aquarists stated when the species was first introduced, and something Roberts also mentioned in his description.

    The results also placed Celestichthys and Danio erythromicron as a sister group to Danio, where they all appear to be of monophyletic origin, suggesting that they evolved from a single common ancestor.

    Placement in Danio

    As part of the study, the authors also redescribed the colour pattern of the fish using the Danio colour pattern terminology created by the taxonomist Fang, which now makes it simpler to compare its markings with those other so-called danionin fishes.

    Fang's 2003 study of the Danio genus, which restricted the use of the name to only those Danio species previously in the Danio dangila species group, defined two characters that fish had to possess in order to be considered members of the genus.

    The two features, known as apomorphic character states, were the presence of an "A stripe" on the anal fin rays (a dark stripe which extends along the middle of the rays to the tip of the last branched anal fin rays), and the presence of two or more pigmented stripes on the tail fin.

    The authors state that no other genus of fish in south or south east Asia, apart from Danio, has these features and only one fish considered to be a Danio, D. erythromicron, lacks both traits.

    They say that C. margaritatus possesses both an "A stripe" and has two pigment stripes on the caudal fin, characters which suggest it is actually a Danio, and not a member of another genus, as suggested by Roberts.

    For more information see the paper: Conway KW, Chen W-J and RL Mayden (200 - The "Celestial pearldanio" is a miniature Danio (s.s) (Ostariophysi: Cyprinidae): evidence from morphology and molecules. Zootaxa.
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    Its being reassigned it to the genus Danio. So depending on your views, the fish that was “Celestichthys margaritatus Roberts, 2007” will now be known as “Danio margaritatus (Roberts, 2007)”.

    here is the paper, decide for yourself http://wjchen.actinops.googlepages.c...yetal.2008.pdf
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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