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    Illegal Gathering in the tank

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    Hi all,

    Just like to enquire. I'm using canister filter with rainbar as the output in a 2ft x 1ft x 1.5ft tank. Recently I bought 100 pcs of boraras brigittae.
    They seemed active, however they always tend to crowd at the right side of the tank (where my suction part of the filter is). Some more adventurous ones will swim around, but very minimal (perhaps only 4-5)

    Is this a norm for them to crowd at one corner? Or is it the water pressure that is making them like this? I tried adjusting the water pressure lower, however they still seem to crowd there.

    Any ways i can get them to swim around instead of crowding at one corner?

    Thanks!

    Rgds

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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    wow 100 pieces in a 2 feet tank. Any pics to share?
    I have 20 pieces mix of tetras and I think it's crowded in my 2 feet tank.

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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    I still feel theres no impact on my visual even if its 100pcs. . . perhaps they are crowding at one corner. . .my tank still looks pretty empty! will upload pictures tonight. . .meanwhile. . .can any experts tell me whats wrong?

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    For visual effect, I prefer they shoal together in one corner than scattered everywhere.

    How long have they been in the tank? Gerenally they stay close together if they feel threatened. When they feel more accustomed to the environment, they will swim freely I believe.

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    ^agree. I think there's nothing wrong.

    Some people prefer they shoal/school together instead of scattering all over, because it makes the tank not so crowded.

    My 2 feet tank with 20 inhabitants seems crowded is due to the fact they are all over the tank, giving the impression is it 'full'

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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    Nature will eventually run it course, if the tank is overcrowded, then fish will start dying until they reach a 'stable' number.

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    They have in the tank for 3 days coming 4th. Well. . .hopefully they can scatter into smaller groups. . .

    I only have 3 otos and 3 Siamese algae eaters in the tank. . .which they are kinda shy as well. . .always hiding under my drift wood -__-'''

    in short. . .i feel that visually my tank has no life because every bugger in there is hiding!!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by atolylica View Post
    ^agree. I think there's nothing wrong.

    Some people prefer they shoal/school together instead of scattering all over, because it makes the tank not so crowded.

    My 2 feet tank with 20 inhabitants seems crowded is due to the fact they are all over the tank, giving the impression is it 'full'
    Same as mine. I have the same impression as you and I really prefer fish which school

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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    Give it a week or two, you should see them all around. I have 10 and was unable to find most in the first week, after awhile they started to venture all over the tank. They occupy the middle and bottom now rather than the top like the norm.

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    Thanks for the replies. Maybe i should let them settle for another week or two. Update you guys again!

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    Yeah, boraras will crowd together when stressed or while still adapting to their surroundings, eventually they will adapt and start to swim everywhere.

    Eventually you will also start to see the dominant males defending their territory too, so there will be a few fishes in some areas, and since you have so many fishes, the majority will spend their time at the undefended areas.
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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    How do i differentiate the males from the females? I saw a couple with bolder colors. . .bolder colors are males? i think out of 100pcs. ..i only have 5-6 males!!!

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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    How do i differentiate the males from the females? I saw a couple with bolder colors. . .bolder colors are males? i think out of 100pcs. ..i only have 5-6 males!!!
    For Boraras Brigittae, they have a black stripe from middle of the body all the way to the tail, and they have distinct red color on the body and fins, the dominant males are usually smaller/slimmer with a deep dark red coloration, the females are larger/fatter with less dark red coloration.

    Note that Boraras Merah tend to get mixed in with some batches so you may also have those in your group too (both fishes come from the same locality), they have a black oval spot in the middle of their body but no line to the tail and are more pink/orange in color.

    Here is the difference in photos:

    Boraras Brigittae



    vs.

    Boraras Merah



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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    Oh shit. I think mine looks more like the Merah. However, when i bought it, its labelled brigittae on the tank! hmmm. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    Oh shit. I think mine looks more like the Merah. However, when i bought it, its labelled brigittae on the tank! hmmm. . .
    Yeah, that's quite common occurrence... most LFS usually can't tell the difference either, especially when the fishes are in stressed condition during transit with their colors all washed out and hence look similar, so by default they'll just label the entire batch as "boraras brigittae" or sometimes even just "mosquito fish".

    I remember i had to go around to a few LFS to hand pick the correct (and nicer) ones, it costs abit more to buy them individually though. Here is a snapshot of one of my groups:

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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    Wow. . .the color difference is so big! mine is as pale as can be. . .lol

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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    Wow. . .the color difference is so big! mine is as pale as can be. . .lol
    Well, they do tend to be abit pale when newly introduced to a tank, but should color up within a few days once they get accustomed to the new environment. Nutritious food and good water conditions help too.
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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    Hi all,

    attached is the pic of my setup. Good thing is the boraras started to swim about liao.
    they seemed to be grazing amongst my hairgrass in search of food.

    one question. I purchased a miniature disposable co2 system. Why is my fissidens still not so green yet? Could it be that i left them out in the air for too long during my scaping and topping of water?

    do fissidens die so fast when not in water? please kindly advise!

    regards
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    Opps. Forgot to attached the picture of the fissidens... It appears like they are kind of dry and dying ImageUploadedByTapatalk1396278646.122985.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1396278657.896010.jpg

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    Re: Illegal Gathering in the tank

    Fissidens have relatively low Co2 and nutrient requirements... although Co2 injection can help their growth, they'll still be slow growers in general.

    If the fissidens have only been added into your tank recently, then they might just need some time to transition and fill in (slow growth plants tend to take more time to transition too).

    Brighter light do help encourage growth too, i've found that fissidens closer to the lights tend to grow noticeably faster and greener then those further away... but with more light there is also the chance of algae issues, so have to keep that in mind.

    Note that fissidens are not naturally bright green in color, compared to other plants they tend to be more of a medium green (sometimes the type of tank lights or maybe camera colour balance settings might make them look brighter green in photos than they really are).
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