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Hi,
I had 8 clown loaches ranging from 5 inches to 2 inches.
They have been living healthily in my tank for the last 9 months or so.
2 weeks ago, all of a sudden they started dying. Usually 2 or 3 dead at one time.
I have been observing them closely and cannot see any signs of diseases on their body.
Now I am only left with 2 loaches.Still, I don't see anything wrong with them.
Anyone else who has such a similar experience?
Thanks in advance.
Clown Loach Fan.
The juggling apprentice fish
Did you add anything to the tank recently? Did you do anything (different)around the tank recently? Tell us more...
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i used to have a few 1-2" clown loach too but they are prone to white spot. got hit by the disease, medication not effective & eventually whole clown population went to heaven..
just adopted a 3" clown loach recently.. now, i am praying for my shrimps.
Clown loaches and all fine scale (or scaleless) fishes are prone to sudden deaths due to poisoning. This is why ich is often fatal to them. Not only would the ich perforate their delicate skin, but the treatment will often make things worst for them. This is why half dose is always recommended for loaches if you are using chemical treatment.
If you find more than one loach dying without apparent cause in a matter of days (i.e. of the fish looks perfectly healthy one minute and then dies the next minute and the carcase looks intact), it is probably a case of poisoning. Could be due to something you have added to the water, or something leaching out of your deco or gravel.
Depending on the quality of your water source, changing water may make matter worst. So it may be best to leave it. You can try putting activated carbon into your filter to try to remove the offending chemicals.
/John
Thanks for all the kind replies.
Today I just say some white spots on the smaller loach. Ich !!!!
I just dosed them and hope for the best.
The strange thing is that I did not see any white spots on the rest that died earlier. Sigh
Clown Loach Fan.
Nope, did not add anything at all. Thats the strange part.Originally Posted by Justikanz
Clown Loach Fan.
Isn't it dangerous to put a loach with your shrimps?
Hope they get along fine ie the loach don't treat your shrimps as food.
If you want to get rid of the loach later on, let me know.
Thansk.
Clown Loach Fan.
i am hoping that the rock fortress is able to hold back the clown loach.. meanwhile, the shrimps are hiding between the rocks, under siege from the clown. i like clown loach too but pity they grow big and outsize my tank.
amlim,
i'll let you adopt the clown if i decide to get rid of it.. see if it will behave and not harass my shrimps..
gosh.. i think i see some shrimp shells already. must launch an investigation to find the culprit.
off topic.. i know that clown loaches are quite shy and gentle in nature when small.. mix well in the community.. but will they become aggressive and prey on smaller fish, shrimp, etc., when they get larger?
i've just introduced a 3"~4" clown into my community tank.. now bit anxious that it will do harm to my tank.. during the day or when the light is on, it just hides in one corner.. will it turn into the BEAST at night when i am not on guard duty?
Clown laoches are hardy fishes. That they could die suddenly is symptomatic of something very wrong with your parameters.
Ich in clown laoches? No problem! Just treat with methylene blue (caution: they stain and kill plts) and they'll recover in no time. I've tried it myself and my two and only clowns are growing, growing and growing...and they are BIG, so big they're looking more like a mouse!
thanks for the reply. sighh... mine all dead liao...
Clown Loach Fan.
Feel sorry for you. i have had the same experience. better luck next time.
i don't recommend treating with methylene blue or malachite green
they both eff up your biological filter, for one
and they're toxic, especially to pregnant women
you might kill off the ich tomites, but if your filter dies, the nitrite spike could well finish off the survivors
just curious, what DID you treat with?
When I treat with methylene blue, I do it in a seperate Hospital tank, which I use purely for sick fishes. If you know what you're doing and what chemical you're dealing with, it is perfectly all right, IMO.
i heard from a LFS owner that clown loaches are more susceptible to white spots when the water is cold and the remedy is to raise the temp to about 30C. this would get rid of the spots slowly. Anyone to verify this?
er, no?
when you up the temp, you speed up the life cycle of the ich = more tomites = faster deaths
The juggling apprentice fish
If there is medication or salt treatment, then it is recommended to raise the temperature. But without medication... No literature yet... And I had not experimented also... Maybe anyone else who does not medicate and is reading this, can comment better...
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Yes. This is correct. I will up to 32 C. Nothing will happen. Better than medication. This is coming from my personal experience.
colin | The Wilderness and Forest | FTS
tomites die in anty temp above 29c life cycle speeds up white spot evolve and are much easier to kill off fishies than on a good deep gravel sweep and water change + high temp fpr 1 week worked for me no bad side effects for clowns and yoyos. Allthough I just added my school of keyhole cichlids to tank containing clowns and yoyos please tell me they wont eat them.
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