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Beautiful coloration, congrats on the success with them!
Folks,
A good while back, I hatched out a small batch of Chromaphyosemion splendopleure Moliwe fry and as fortune would have it, my last two juvenile started coloring up and turned out to be a pair. Yup, I couldn't be more lucky than that.
When I set up my 2nd Blyxa Tank, it was to be the Moliwe's home and once the young pair hit the water, I never saw them again.
Diligently, I continued very light feeding with moina and tubifex, hoping to catch a glimpse. Nope, nothing! "Don't tell me they're dead! D*mn, I didn't have a chance to breed them yet".
As far as zero-maintenance setup was concerned, the blyxa tank wasn't very successful and decided to tear down the tank. Guess what? Lo and behold, I found the Moliwe pair!! Very much alive and all grown up.
Not wanting to lose the opportunity, I setup another spawning tank just for them and the effort was worth it. I had a good run with them until the female decided to pass on.
Still, I'm happy to present her spawn and the image is a male from her very first brood.
In their own partition, 3 broods are growing-out very well and some are now colored sub-adults. Quite an impressive sight, that Kwek Leong couldn't resist asking for a trio during his visit with Madan. I hope they'll display well for him and not hide, like their parents once did.
Two of the larger sub-adult females are now paired up with the original male, but with the recent hot spells, none of the eggs are viable. Come to think of it, I've not collected any good eggs from my other breeders as well.
Perhaps it's time I took another look at the chiller project.
I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
Ronnie Lee
Beautiful coloration, congrats on the success with them!
Deborah
Deborah, thanks for the thumbs up. I think most splendopleure have subtle coloration and flashed photography makes them truly remarkable.
I've just moved the Moliwe's breeding tank to another location that's mostly in the shade and hopefully, the temp will drop somewhat and allow them to be prolific again.
In the background, a small group of us have been discussing about a 2nd gathering and if there're no hiccups, I'll should have a few pairs of different splendopleure for distribution. Auction perhaps?
I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
Ronnie Lee
Ron, splendid fish as usual but I shall save you the agony of seeing me drool.
As for the second gathering/auction, it is better to have everyone meet up at an agreeable spot.. perhaps KL's place? for a short or long discussion on the issue. I will bring down a copy of the logo design as well and see if the fellas are agreeable.
By the way, sorry about not collecting them worms today. Had a major problem occur. I'll come down tomorrow, as in later today (Tuesday) for them worms.
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Jianyang,
Why not have the gathering when the eggs we ordered arrive? You all are welcomed to my house. Just give me a few days' advance notice.
By the way, Ronnie, the trio I got from you turned out to be a reverse trio. Not that I'm complaining but it would be nice to have another female
Loh K L
Beautiful fish! How long did it take for them to get to this point(I heard 6 months before they can breed). I'm considering getting some eggs of Chrom. splendopure 'Tiko green' but unsure on just getting eggs of these guys.
Also, do people ever sell unsexed juveniles in groups of 6 like many livebearers are sold?
Joseph,Originally Posted by nonamethefish
I've been bogged down with breeding and raising that I hadn't really thought about it. Fortunately, I maintain a brief breeding-log and according to what was recorded;
Eggs collected : 041210 (YYMMDD, ie 2004 Dec 10th)
Hatch/Transferred : 041228 (12~21day water incubation)
Picture of featured male taken : 050321
The male sub-adult is about 3.5mth old and not quite mature yet. Raised in a group, they are not shy and await eagerly upfront for their meal.
While digging around for other images, I found more Moliwe pics. Here's late Mommy.
A few more pics of Daddy Moliwe... (still kicking)
Again, the featured male and his siblings from the 1st brood at the 'worm basket', recycled from aquatic-plant pots.
There's an online listing for the 'Orange' but it appears very 'Green'. Perhaps a young male or different light source. It looks very pretty too but I prefer the 'Orange Phenotype'. Let's do a swap when we both have extra fishes or eggs, ya?I'm considering getting some eggs of Chrom. splendopure 'Tiko green' but unsure on just getting eggs of these guys.
I used to do that with some AUS and GAR but it was more trouble than it was worth. Hobbyists later feed-back having lost them or ended up with a single sex. Prices weren't hot either in that the sale price couldn't recoup maintenance cost. [I don't want to sound like I'm "money-faced" but you'd be surprised how all the little things add up]Also, do people ever sell unsexed juveniles in groups of 6 like many livebearers are sold?
When I sell, I also desire that that species can be established, so now I release extra fishes either in pairs or trios, depending on the sex ratio.
Kwek Leong, I can't imagine how I could have 'missed' with a reverse trio. Lack of rest probably, but I'll net out another female when we meet up later tonight. (With 2 pairs, there's no reason why you can't get this line going, ya?
Local hobbyists will be in for a treat when these 'Moliwe', plus a few other SPL species, will be made available at our tentative 2nd Gathering, of course
I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
Ronnie Lee
Hi Ron,
Can I ask from where you acquired your fish? I have SPL "Moliwe" also and they are vastly different from the fish you have.
Here is a picture of my wild male taken not too long after I got him.
Aaron
Aaron,
I've seen from elsewhere, the pic you just posted and have wondered about the difference. As far as I know, I've gotten mine as eggs from David and have maintained them as such.
What about you? It would be interesting to see if the difference is just natural variation of the species or if someone along the line made a snafu.
BTW, do you go by the handle 'Zipper'? I was hoping to acquire the 'other' Moliwe. Perhaps we can swap?
I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
Ronnie Lee
Little change in plans for me...I may be acquiring a group(3 females-5-6 males) of Chromaphyosemion splendopleure 'Muyuka Police Station' C89/15(the fish were originally labeled 'Mayukka Police Station' but according to killitalk that is a mispelling). Hopefully they do well for me here.
Here's a photo
http://www.thefishwizards.com/html/f...ka_police1.htm
Ron: I never heard of the orange one-just checked your photos and they are indeed very beautiful
http://home.tiscali.be/chromaphyosem.../sppTiko-1.jpg
Joseph,
I was also reading up on the typo correction and figured that it's tough to grasp names of faraway lands in a foreign tongue, especially little towns and obscure villages, where these fishes were originally collected. [just as we're all 'experts' in the Latin language!... with our own pronounciation, that is
Getting smudgy locations names that's almost rubbed off plastic bags and bad penmanship contribute to more confusion as well, worse when the error is propagated. Here's where taking the slash out of collection codes, IMHO, is a move in the right direction.
The SPL 'Muyuka Police Station' C89-15 is another subtle beauty and I hoping it doesn't take too long to hit our shores. When you get hold of them, do log down your observations and eventually, the breeding attempts ('cos that's when the fun begins and my turn to learn from you).
As for the Tiko, Orange Pheno, there was only one reference that I could find but frankly, I wouldn't mind the 'original' Green either. [*]
I'm just puzzled when you said, "According to the owner this is a good representation of 'Tiko Green'". Who is the 'owner' you're referring to? If not convenient to disclose publicly, you know how to reach me
[*] Folks, as already mentioned in the Tiko thread, I have 2 surviving males of the Orange pheno. What is the consensus or thoughts, of a breeding pair of Orange male and Green female? Can their spawns still be legit 'Tiko' population and ethically distributed as such? Worse case scenario is for the offsprings to lose all codes and revert back to plain Chromaphyosemion splendopleure (which can't be worse than losing the entire line... yes or no?).
I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
Ronnie Lee
In this case the location stays the same, minus the colour form. If you cross the green with the orange fish the offspring are technically Tiko but of no particular colour form.
Don't want to be a damper but lots of pics out there are somewhat off-colour with too much emphasis on the shine. Editing pics is one thing but over editing pics is another. Sometimes we see a nice pic of a fish but it doesn't look that way at all when we see it in the flesh.
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the problem with pix on the Internet, first and foremost, is that many people do not calibrate their monitors at all. adding to the fact the fishes viewed under white light, day light or flash, is quite different from under aquarium or living room lights.Don't want to be a damper but lots of pics out there are somewhat off-colour with too much emphasis on the shine. Editing pics is one thing but over editing pics is another. Sometimes we see a nice pic of a fish but it doesn't look that way at all when we see it in the flesh.
why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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Choy, I agree with your points however there is a certain group of people online who have over-edited their pictures to the point that it looks abnormal in both colouration and sharpness.
Your pictures have been shot to reproduce the fish's natural colours therefore it is the right type of pictures we should be seeing.
Over-enhanced pictures by some parties on the web can make a dull fish look like an electrically-charged fish.
Fish.. Simply Irresistable
Back to Killies... slowly.
thanx stormhawkii it is good to know my $500 was not spent in vain :PYour pictures have been shot to reproduce the fish's natural colours therefore it is the right type of pictures we should be seeing.
why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
hexazona · crumenatum · Galleria Botanica
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