Bulk order - Breather bags from Novalek

[RonWill]

Hi all,
I'll be shipping out a good number of killifishes and other fishes, and my own supply is running short.

Intend to order the 4" x 8" Kordon Breathing Bags, priced at US$13 per pack of 100's and if anyone wish to join in to share shipping cost, please indicate interest here.

Additional details at http://www.novalek.net/vshop/shopdis...um+Accessories

A larger 11.5" x 19" Breathing Bag (Item #50101) is also available but in pack of 500's at US$155. Anyone wants to share the order? I can take a 100 of these.

There's another item which caught my interest and is described as a "Kordon Fish Catcher". Cool looking molded plastic "bowl style" fish catcher that replaces traditional nets. [Good for transferring fry, I think]

Available in Clear or tinted and dimensions are; 16.5" long overall, with 4" diameter bowl end. Priced each at US$4.49.


I'll be confirming my order by end of week (Aug 14th). Late comers can enquire directly from the site.
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Price of items do not include shipping/handling charges but we can work out the details later.

Kordon Breathing Bag 4" x 8" (Item #50100)
Ron - 4 packs (400 pieces) US$13 x 4 = US$52.

Kordon Fish Catcher (Item #64215)
Ron - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98.

Usual non-affiliation applies.

[whuntley]

I just ordered 200 of the smaller clear (unprinted) bags and 20 of the box-liners. At 2.5" X 5" I figured I might not double up like I do the 4" bags. I do intend to include a sheet with instructions, so no one duplicates my killing of a whole group of wild Rams by trying to float them.

Lots of rumors on KT that this product line is being dropped, but that was not communicated by the nice lady on the phone at Novalek, this week. If you have VOIP or other cheap long distance, their number is 510 782 4058. [I think you may need 01 in front of that.]

Wright

[hobbit6003]

Ron,

I'll add to this:

Kordon Breathing Bag 4" x 8" (Item #50100)

Ron - 4 packs (400 pieces) US$13 x 4 = US$52.
Kenny - 1 pack = US $13

Kordon Fish Catcher (Item #64215)
Ron - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98.
Kenny - 1 piece = US$4.49

Cheers,

Kenny[/b]

[zmzfam]

Kenny, I think you double-posted so I'd remove the other post.

I'll add in my order.

Kordon Breathing Bag 4" x 8" (Item #50100)

Ron - 4 packs (400 pieces) US$13 x 4 = US$52.
Kenny - 1 pack = US $13
Zul - 1 pack = US $13

Kordon Fish Catcher (Item #64215)
Ron - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98.
Kenny - 1 piece = US$4.49
Zul - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98.

[keehoe]

Kordon Breathing Bag 4" x 8" (Item #50100)

Ron - 4 packs (400 pieces) US$13 x 4 = US$52.
Kenny - 1 pack = US $13
Zul - 1 pack = US $13
KH - 2 pack = US$13 x 2 = US$26

Kordon Fish Catcher (Item #64215)
Ron - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98.
Kenny - 1 piece = US$4.49
Zul - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98.
KH - 1 piece = US$4.49

I will take another 100 of the bigger bag. That makes 300 more to go.
Any chance of getting the clear unprinted version?

I also interested in this:
"Kordon Breathing Bag Liner 14" x 16" x 30" Item#50109"

Thanks

[stormhawk]

My order added as follows:

Kordon Breathing Bag 4" x 8" (Item #50100)

Ron - 4 packs (400 pieces) US$13 x 4 = US$52.
Kenny - 1 pack = US $13
Zul - 1 pack = US $13
KH - 2 pack = US$13 x 2 = US$26
JY - 1 pack (100 pieces) = US $13

Kordon Fish Catcher (Item #64215)
Ron - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98.
Kenny - 1 piece = US$4.49
Zul - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98.
KH - 1 piece = US$4.49
JY - 1 piece = US $4.49

Kee Hoe, if you're interested in getting the liner but without paying the charges for a 100 piece-pack, here's an auction I found that might be of interest to you:

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/aucti...ing&1123978441

By the way, since these are direct from Kordon / Novalek, they would be those printed type versions. The clear types are from another supplier that I'm not sure of. Probably Ronnie knows.

[whuntley]

Novalek (Kordon) has the application patented, everywhere, so bags from any other source would be either from their dealers or not real breather bags.

They did supply the 4X8 bags as clear, at one time, but I believe they no longer do that. Dr. Rofen said they had trouble with folks using them wrong without the (to me unreadable) blue printing. They also had troubles with folks peddling non-breather bags as breathers.

I believe the smaller 2.5X5" bags I bought are what they use for their live-food sachets. I have been putting one fish in a 4X8 and tying the bag off and then another in the remaining part. The 4X8s are great for a pair of killies. The final end must be tied with a rubber band or heat sealed, as they are too short for two knots IMO. I use about 50-60 cc in each half, so they lay out pretty flat (i.e., they are not bulging or round like a golf ball).

When I find a working heat sealer, I'll probably just put one fish in each 2.5X5 bag. They are also nice for sending live food cultures, etc.

Wright

[stormhawk]

Hi Wright,

Hmm.. the blue printing can be read however but it seems to be easily rubbed off. I can't explain why but sometimes it does get onto my fingers when I rub on the bag.

Yup I agree, the 4 x 8 are way too short for tying two knots in a row. Only other way is to use a heat sealer, excellent size for a young or juvenile pair of killies and a bunch of other smaller fish.

Having them flat makes packing alot more easier. If Tony Terceira was still lurking actively on this forum, he'd be the best person to ask when it comes to packing fishes in breathers via the flat-pack heat-sealed method. I've seen an image of his packs on KT and indeed its an excellent method for shipping live fishes.

Those 2.5 x 5 bags you got from Kordon are indeed a good size for shipping live food culture or just a single fish. Enough for one Kryptolebias marmoratus perhaps??

[timebomb]

Hi, fellas,

I have no interest in buying any of the stuff mentioned but I clicked on the link Ronnie showed us and found the name of the online shop rather disturbing. Novashop reminds me of someone called Robert Novak. Do you think they are related or did Robert Novak open a new store?

Loh K L

[timebomb]

The more I look at the site, the more I'm suspicious. Who other than the bugger would say, "Wishing you the best in successful shopping."

"Successful shopping??"" - It's the first time I've heard such a term.

Loh K L

[stormhawk]

Err.. Novalek has no relation to Robert Novak. Refer to this link:

http://www.novalek.com/geninfo.htm

Novalek is the parent company of Kordon, one of its subsidiaries and is currently led by Dr. Robert Rofen, who was mentioned in an earlier post by Wright.

[stormhawk]

"Successful shopping??"" - It's the first time I've heard such a term.

Well, its just another harmless slogan and I find no suspicious characters in the company. Kordon is a well-known company and they're of no relation to Novak's company (which is mentioned quite clearly on the APD fund website).

There's really no need to tie the two companies together because of the Nova in both names. If there's an axe to grind with Bob Novak, do it via the APD but this order is with Kordon / Novalek and therefore its preferable that we stick to the order at hand.

[RonWill]

The more I look at the site, the more I'm suspicious. Who other than the bugger would say, "Wishing you the best in successful shopping."

Kwek Leong,
"Successful shopping" is when I receive the goods I want, at the price I paid and delivered in a timely manner. I don't really care if N***k himself is running the whole operation, just give me my bluddy bags

Wright,
The breathers I'm using now are the clear un-printed 2.5X5" which I originally acquired from Tony Terceira. I prefer these to those with text that block my view for hiding fry or eggs stuck between folds.

If you can give me a name to contact via email for those 2.5X5's, that would be most appreciated when I close the order.

All,
If there's interest in the clear 2.5X5" bags, edit your order. Nothing is confirmed but let's hope that Wright can give the order a shove in the right direction (or let that nice lady at Novalek know what's happening).

Standing order (including those clear bags but no promises);

Kordon Breathing Bag 4" x 8" (Item #50100)
Ron - 4 packs (400 pieces) US$13 x 4 = US$52.
Kenny - 1 pack = US $13
Zul - 1 pack = US $13
KH - 2 pack = US$13 x 2 = US$26
JY - 1 pack (100 pieces) = US $13

Kordon Fish Catcher (Item #64215)
Ron - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98.
Kenny - 1 piece = US$4.49
Zul - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98.
KH - 1 piece = US$4.49
JY - 1 piece = US $4.49

Kordon Breathing Bag 2.5" X 5" (Item #???????) Any idea, Wright?
Ron - 4 packs (400 pieces) at ??USD

[PohSan]

I wonder how is it possible to catch adult fish with the catcher but it will be great for fry. Let include my order for two catchers. Thanks.


Regards,
Ong Poh San

[nonamethefish]

I remember that someone sent me a pair of blue gularis in one of the 2 x 5.5 breather bags. Despite the inability to straighten out completely they looked quite stress free compared to some fish I've gotten in normal bags which tended to go beserk when the bags were removed from the box(perhaps they couldn't see quite well through the text.)

[RonWill]

Poh San,
The 'bowl' part of the catcher is 4" in diameter and should work for adult killies, even SJOs.

I'm tired of having otos and corys getting tangled up in nets but it should also be good for shrimps as well.

In the worst case scenario, where the catcher doesn't perform as expected, one can always modify the thing to be a canister filter outlet

Updated standing order (including those clear bags but no promises);

Kordon Breathing Bag 4" x 8" (Item #50100)
Ron - 4 packs (400 pieces) US$13 x 4 = US$52.
Kenny - 1 pack = US $13
Zul - 1 pack = US $13
KH - 2 pack = US$13 x 2 = US$26
JY - 1 pack (100 pieces) = US $13

Kordon Fish Catcher (Item #64215)
Ron - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98
Kenny - 1 piece = US$4.49
Zul - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98
KH - 1 piece = US$4.49
JY - 1 piece = US $4.49
Poh San - 2 pieces US$4.49 X 2= US$8.98

Kordon Breathing Bag 2.5" X 5" (Item #???????) Any idea, Wright?
Ron - 4 packs (400 pieces) at ??USD[/quote]

[whuntley]

Sorry, but I didn't get/remember her name. I do have that problem with names, and my memory is my second-shortest thing.

I gave the phone number in an earlier post. If you want to place an order, that will get you right to her. I do not have an ordering e-mail addy and I suspect Dr. Rofen might not like me posting his own address on a public forum. There may be one buried in their web site.

Domestically, the small clear bags are $15 for 200, which includes shipping and handling. I requested and got her to include just 20 of the box liner bags, but don't remember the price.

Kordon is geared to sell only to distributors and local fish shops, and has not been eager to deal with individuals. OTOH, Dr. Rofen is a long-time supporter of local killifish hobbyists and they (Kordon) have been very generous with dealing with our peculiar needs. Please respect the fact that they must not appear to compete with their main customers -- the shops and distributors to shops. They are wonderful supporters of our AKA Affiliate Club raffles and shows, and usually do a lot for the convention-giving club.

Kordon (Novalek), San Francisco Bay Brand, and OSI are commercial survivors and descendants of the group of academics at Stanford, Cal Berserkely, and The CA Academy of Sciences that discovered and developed the use of brine shrimp and their cysts for the tropical fish hobby and eventually aquaculture. We owe them a lot!

Kordon also has built up and maintains the largest killifish library that I know of. They also served as distributors of Dr. Tony Terceira's book, while it was still in print.

cheers,

wright

[PohSan]

Poh San,
In the worst case scenario, where the catcher doesn't perform as expected, one can always modify the thing to be a canister filter outlet

I would think that it is more suitable to convert to a smoking pipe, if the plastic can stand the heat.


4" bowl to catch fry .... hmm


Regards.
Ong Poh San

[RonWill]

I remember that someone sent me a pair of blue gularis in one of the 2 x 5.5 breather bags

Joseph,
If it's an adult SJO pair in one bag, I think that's stretching one's luck by a large margin. Maybe I'm just too cautious but I'll pack a 3cm fish in it's own bag.

Poh San,
The two briar pipes I have now is enough but let's not worry too much over the shape or whatnot. It should work better than my little soup spoons especially when there's lots of tiny little fry to transfer from the hatching tray.

[nonamethefish]

If it's an adult SJO pair in one bag, I think that's stretching one's luck by a large margin. Maybe I'm just too cautious but I'll pack a 3cm fish in it's own bag.

Wording was bad on my part. The pair was packed seperately into 2 breather bags of this size.