are these Apistogramma agassizi females?

**sTefaniA** · 16th Dec 2009, 04:46

hi everyone

i'm new and found this forum when i was looking for apisto's
this looks like a nice forum so i registered

here is my problem,
i got a couple of apisto's at the lfs. they looked like a young male and female but when i got home they looked the same wich is yellow
i am still not sure
are this two females, or 1 young male and 1 female?
also, they are agassizi? just to be sure

i know agassizi is a harem fish but i wasnt sure about the sexe so i will add a male or female later
they need a little bit of good food but they are active and healthy. the first one flares at the second one sometimes

fish1

flaring to it's own reflection

fish2 (this one should be male?)

i hope the pics are good enough!!
thanks!

**stormhawk** · 16th Dec 2009, 05:09

Hello Stefania, welcome to AQ. I would say that you have 2 x agassizii females.

The males have longer dorsal, anal and ventral fins, and have more blue markings in the facial area, especially on the cheeks. Males are more iridescent on the sides as well.

By the way, the first female is showing it's brooding colors. If you find a male soon, it will probably breed, if you conditioned it well.

**sTefaniA** · 16th Dec 2009, 05:20

thanks for the reply

this weekend i will visit the lfs
i know they have ordered agassizi sp 'fire', 'double red' and wildcolors
wich one to choose

**genes** · 16th Dec 2009, 07:01

Welcome to AQ. Glad that you find the apisto scene in the forum useful. The rounded tail is a sign of them being females too. Also, those are some nice pictures taken. Especially the first picture.

**sTefaniA** · 16th Dec 2009, 18:28

thanks

i use a canon eos 1000d
i make about 50 pics and one of them is good
quite hard to take pics cause they are very fast and dont wanna stay still

**sTefaniA** · 18th Dec 2009, 06:44

have reserved an agassizi 'fire red' and i will be picking it up this weekend or maybe tuesday

**burpz** · 18th Dec 2009, 10:17

Originally Posted by sTefaniA

thanks

i use a canon eos 1000d
i make about 50 pics and one of them is good
quite hard to take pics cause they are very fast and dont wanna stay still

Not too bad, I had to take so much more before something acceptable comes out...

Originally Posted by sTefaniA

have reserved an agassizi 'fire red' and i will be picking it up this weekend or maybe tuesday

Wonderful! Hope to see his pictures soon.

**sTefaniA** · 21st Dec 2009, 02:08

today i went to the store but because of the bad weather (1feet of snow right now) i decided to wait till tuesday before taking the male home

i reserved a fire but i coudnt choose so here are some candidates:
please help me pick one
theye are in not so good condition

sp fire fish

double red

and this one, does anyone know wich one this is?

i like all of them

**MarcJoshua** · 21st Dec 2009, 02:43

I'd go with the double red, but hey, thats just me.

**sTefaniA** · 21st Dec 2009, 03:59

i think the last one might grow out to be very pretty maybe
it looks like a tefe doesnt it?

**nicos apistos** · 21st Dec 2009, 06:19

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows wheer I can find apistogramma fire red or baenschi inka 50. Awesome apistos by the way.

**nicos apistos** · 22nd Dec 2009, 01:24

Also is there any difference between fire and flame red agassizi? I am going to get the FIRE red from a man named David Soares in a month, but i want to know if there is a differnce in looks.
Nicolas

**stormhawk** · 22nd Dec 2009, 01:27

No idea on the difference nicos, but it's probably just something to do with the difference in intensity of red on the body. There are several tank-bred forms of the agassizii, so fire and flame red might be the same fish. Different breeders occasionally have different ways of "calling" their strains, when it can just be the same thing all along.

**nicos apistos** · 22nd Dec 2009, 01:38

Thanks stormhawk, but someone told me one has fire has more gold on the body and flame has mors blue on tail. Whatever I like either way. I have seen varied pics aswell but same names. Thanks alot.